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    Default Boxers vs Fighters..

    How many times have you heard a great boxer always beats a great fighter?

    We saw Ohara embarrassed the other day in quality boxing from Josh Taylor, and we all remember the JC boxing clinic against Lacy.

    What other fights did you enjoy where the art of boxing nullified and outclassed a pure fighter..and vice versa.

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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    Try applying that to Lennox.

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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
    You got Frazier as the Boxer in one example and the Fighter in another??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
    You got Frazier as the Boxer in one example and the Fighter in another??
    No. Frazier beat Ali was the first example of a fighter beating a boxer.

    I do not count Lennox v Tyson as it was not best v best just as I do not count Tyson v Holmes.
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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    Always liked Byrd-Tua. Certainly not great but Ishida punching holes through Kirkland was good.

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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
    You got Frazier as the Boxer in one example and the Fighter in another??
    No. Frazier beat Ali was the first example of a fighter beating a boxer.

    I do not count Lennox v Tyson as it was not best v best just as I do not count Tyson v Holmes.
    Right , so you've got Frazier (Fighter) beating Ali (Boxer) . then you quote as an exception Foreman v Frazier . This means that you are quoting Foreman as a Boxer rather than a fighter , is that correct?
    Because George Foreman doesn't exactly stand out to me as some kind of Technical Boxer.
    if so, does that mean the Ali/Foreman was a case of Boxer v Boxer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
    You got Frazier as the Boxer in one example and the Fighter in another??
    No. Frazier beat Ali was the first example of a fighter beating a boxer.

    I do not count Lennox v Tyson as it was not best v best just as I do not count Tyson v Holmes.
    Right , so you've got Frazier (Fighter) beating Ali (Boxer) . then you quote as an exception Foreman v Frazier . This means that you are quoting Foreman as a Boxer rather than a fighter , is that correct?
    Because George Foreman doesn't exactly stand out to me as some kind of Technical Boxer.
    if so, does that mean the Ali/Foreman was a case of Boxer v Boxer?
    You a lawyer in real life?

    Ali is an exception and what I was meaning was that Ali beat these fighters Liston, Foreman and Fraizer
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    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ

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    Default Re: Boxers vs Fighters..

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They say that in the great big heavyweights fights the fighter mainly beats the boxer from Louis v Schmeling, Rocky v Walcott, Liston v Patterson, Frazier v Ali 1, Tyson v Spinks, Joshua v Wlad.

    The exceptions are Tunney v Dempsey and Ali v Liston,Foreman/Fraizer
    You got Frazier as the Boxer in one example and the Fighter in another??
    No. Frazier beat Ali was the first example of a fighter beating a boxer.

    I do not count Lennox v Tyson as it was not best v best just as I do not count Tyson v Holmes.
    Right , so you've got Frazier (Fighter) beating Ali (Boxer) . then you quote as an exception Foreman v Frazier . This means that you are quoting Foreman as a Boxer rather than a fighter , is that correct?
    Because George Foreman doesn't exactly stand out to me as some kind of Technical Boxer.
    if so, does that mean the Ali/Foreman was a case of Boxer v Boxer?
    You a lawyer in real life?

    Ali is an exception and what I was meaning was that Ali beat these fighters Liston, Foreman and Fraizer
    Get your grammar right man! Why didn't you put "&" instead of a slash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ
    Ali was way too good for Foreman. Even when he was was on the ropes , he was still coming off them by connecting regularly on Foreman. He didn't just play possum. He gave Foreman a lesson!
    This is what most people don't realise about good "Boxers", they are usually tough cunts as well. Nobody can avoid being punched their whole careers, it's how they react that is key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ
    Ali was way too good for Foreman. Even when he was was on the ropes , he was still coming off them by connecting regularly on Foreman. He didn't just play possum. He gave Foreman a lesson!
    This is what most people don't realise about good "Boxers", they are usually tough cunts as well. Nobody can avoid being punched their whole careers, it's how they react that is key.
    Floyd is the perfect example of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ
    Ali was way too good for Foreman. Even when he was was on the ropes , he was still coming off them by connecting regularly on Foreman. He didn't just play possum. He gave Foreman a lesson!
    This is what most people don't realise about good "Boxers", they are usually tough cunts as well. Nobody can avoid being punched their whole careers, it's how they react that is key.
    Floyd is the perfect example of that.
    Really tough getting bit on the thumb by Maidana and crying about it or fighting a 0 fight novice....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ
    Ali was way too good for Foreman. Even when he was was on the ropes , he was still coming off them by connecting regularly on Foreman. He didn't just play possum. He gave Foreman a lesson!
    This is what most people don't realise about good "Boxers", they are usually tough cunts as well. Nobody can avoid being punched their whole careers, it's how they react that is key.
    Floyd is the perfect example of that.
    Really tough getting bit on the thumb by Maidana and crying about it or fighting a 0 fight novice....
    And the other 48...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Foreman could've whipped Ali in Zaire if he just used his jab and saved his power for later rounds. I never saw ropes so loose in my life and Ali was pushing down on Foreman's head and neck 100s of times = DQ
    Ali was way too good for Foreman. Even when he was was on the ropes , he was still coming off them by connecting regularly on Foreman. He didn't just play possum. He gave Foreman a lesson!
    This is what most people don't realise about good "Boxers", they are usually tough cunts as well. Nobody can avoid being punched their whole careers, it's how they react that is key.
    Floyd is the perfect example of that.
    Really tough getting bit on the thumb by Maidana and crying about it or fighting a 0 fight novice....
    And the other 48...?
    Crying like a girl after beating Gatti, having catch weights, delayed the biggest fight of his generation.... absolute tough guy.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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