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    https://www.amazon.com/Cat-Wars-Deva.../dp/0691167419



    In 1894, a lighthouse keeper named David Lyall arrived on Stephens Island off New Zealand with a cat named Tibbles. In just over a year, the Stephens Island Wren, a rare bird endemic to the island, was rendered extinct. Mounting scientific evidence confirms what many conservationists have suspected for some time―that in the United States alone, free-ranging cats are killing birds and other animals by the billions. Equally alarming are the little-known but potentially devastating public health consequences of rabies and parasitic Toxoplasma passing from cats to humans at rising rates. Cat Wars tells the story of the threats free-ranging cats pose to biodiversity and public health throughout the world, and sheds new light on the controversies surrounding the management of the explosion of these cat populations.

    This compelling book traces the historical and cultural ties between humans and cats from early domestication to the current boom in pet ownership, along the way accessibly explaining the science of extinction, population modeling, and feline diseases. It charts the developments that have led to our present impasse―from Stan Temple's breakthrough studies on cat predation in Wisconsin to cat-eradication programs underway in Australia today. It describes how a small but vocal minority of cat advocates has campaigned successfully for no action in much the same way that special interest groups have stymied attempts to curtail smoking and climate change.

    Cat Wars paints a revealing picture of a complex global problem―and proposes solutions that foresee a time when wildlife and humans are no longer vulnerable to the impacts of free-ranging cats.


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    I don’t think my boy freedom likes catz.

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    Being an obvious advocate of eugenics the first thing I did to my cat was rip out her womb. Thus no issues with overpopulation and secondly the cat never leaves the home. She seems happy enough and is far less of a threat to the world than the human species.

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    Besides being great companions, cats may have actually saved civilization from starvation and disease.
    Imagine living in a time and place where every home was teeming with tiny, dangerous beasts. Some new threat lurked at every corner: asps hiding in clay jars, rats spoiling massive amounts of stored grain, venomous scorpions creeping under cradles. In this time and place-- Ancient Egypt-- one creature existed that could make the world safe from these little monsters: the cat.

    The same graceful creatures that now sleep on our pillows were life-saving companions to the people of ancient Egypt. It's no wonder that generations of Egyptians were drawn to worship them.

    One of the earliest deities of ancient Egypt was the goddess Mafdet, who was highly revered by people seeking protection against venomous animals like snakes and scorpions. She was shown with a variety of fierce, feline forms, most often as a woman with the head of a lion, cheetah, or house-cat (though sometimes she was shown as a cat with a woman's head). Because cats could protect against the tiny monsters that made Egyptian homes unsafe, Mafdet was regarded as the protector of the home-- and of the kingdom itself!

    Later in Egyptian history, the goddess Bastet (sometimes just "Bast") replaced Mafdet as the feline goddess of choice. Like Mafdet, she was regarded as a fierce protector of the home (and especially of children and royalty), largely because of cats' renowned ability to kill snakes, scorpions, and other vermin. Her followers called her the "Eye of Ra," the sun god, and believed that she fiercely watched the world and guarded Egypt against invasion.



    Catz saved us n shitz

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    Cats do kill birds so owners are encouraged to make sure they have a bell collar to warn their prey. The cats do not need the food anything they catch is played with and tortured.
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    About 10 years ago, two scientists decided to estimate the total number of birds on the planet. The number they came up with was 200 to 400 billion individual birds. Compared to 5 billion people, this amounts to about 40 to 60 birds per person. Your second question, unfortunately, is much easier to answer.


    We have more than enough birds, we can spare a few ten or hundred million

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    About 10 years ago, two scientists decided to estimate the total number of birds on the planet. The number they came up with was 200 to 400 billion individual birds. Compared to 5 billion people, this amounts to about 40 to 60 birds per person. Your second question, unfortunately, is much easier to answer.


    We have more than enough birds, we can spare a few ten or hundred million
    Those numbers are wrong.

    There are nearly 8 billion human mammals in the world. ONE SPECIES. There are 5,416 species of mammals, probably 200 to 400 billion individuals.

    THERE ARE SOME 8000 SPECIES OF BIRDS. There are probably several billion birds. Most species evolved long before humans.

    Numbers of most species are declining every year, mainly due to 3 factors: cats, loss/degradation of habitat, and pesticides.


    There is more genetic difference between an Indigo Bunting and a Great Blue Heron than between a human and a giraffe.




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    The authors of the book in the opening post have been here in Vancouver during the past week for the World Ornithological Conference.

    I met up with some of these international bird biologists in a park this past Wednesday.

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    Cats have naturally become a problem for some of the native birds, along with possums, rats and the like.

    I think owners do carry some responsibility in these areas to place a bell or something similar on their pet where native wild life is at risk. This won't help every bird/ lizard etc but it's a start I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    About 10 years ago, two scientists decided to estimate the total number of birds on the planet. The number they came up with was 200 to 400 billion individual birds. Compared to 5 billion people, this amounts to about 40 to 60 birds per person. Your second question, unfortunately, is much easier to answer.


    We have more than enough birds, we can spare a few ten or hundred million
    Those numbers are wrong.

    There are nearly 8 billion human mammals in the world. ONE SPECIES. There are 5,416 species of mammals, probably 200 to 400 billion individuals.

    THERE ARE SOME 8000 SPECIES OF BIRDS. There are probably several billion birds. Most species evolved long before humans.

    Numbers of most species are declining every year, mainly due to 3 factors: cats, loss/degradation of habitat, and pesticides.


    There is more genetic difference between an Indigo Bunting and a Great Blue Heron than between a human and a giraffe.



    Yeah it was a dated article I know there are a shitload of bird spieces but in general we have a shitload of birds. Hundreds of billions of them. You seem to have it out for cats. What we really need to be concerned about is the Asian fish that have made it to US waters. The Great Lakes is being ruined. @Freedom cats are not the enemy, fish are, the nasty buggers

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    in the first place. [Why Do Cats Bury Their Poop?]

    So, how dramatically would the rodent population increase if cats suddenly vanished? It just so happens that several scientific studies have been conducted that paint a vivid picture. A 1997 study in Great Britain found that the average house cat brought home more than 11 dead animals (including mice, birds, frogs and more) in the course of six months. That meant the 9 million cats of Britain were collectively killing close to 200 million wild specimens per year — not including all those they did not offer up to their owners. A study in New Zealand in 1979 found that, when cats were nearly eradicated from a small island, the local rat population quickly quadrupled.

    And if the rodent population shot up, this would of course trigger a cascade of other ecological effects. On that same island in New Zealand, for instance, ecologists observed that, as rat numbers increased in the absence of cats, the population of seabirds whose eggs rats preyed upon declined. If the approximately 220 million domestic cats in the world all bit the dust, seabird populations would likely fall worldwide, while the populations of non-cat predators that prey on rats would be expected to increase.

    "All species have an impact," Beck said.

    And let's not forget the emotional toll that a mass cat death would take on us humans: "In this country, cats are much loved by many. While there are more dog-owning households (38 percent) than cat- owning households (34 percent), there are actually more domestic cats than dogs because cat owners own more of them. Cats as pets have always been appreciated for the contact, relatively low maintenance, and pedomorphic (child-like) face and general morphology."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Cats have naturally become a problem for some of the native birds, along with possums, rats and the like.

    I think owners do carry some responsibility in these areas to place a bell or something similar on their pet where native wild life is at risk. This won't help every bird/ lizard etc but it's a start I suppose.
    I made my cat a pair of slippers so she wouldn’t be so loud when she walked

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Cats have naturally become a problem for some of the native birds, along with possums, rats and the like.

    I think owners do carry some responsibility in these areas to place a bell or something similar on their pet where native wild life is at risk. This won't help every bird/ lizard etc but it's a start I suppose.
    I made my cat a pair of slippers so she wouldn’t be so loud when she walked
    It's an impossible thing to control. Even some birds, will raid other types of bird species nests.
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    People should not have brought house cats, Norway rats (Rattus norvegicus), and black rats (Rattus rattus) with them to Islands where they don't belong.

    Eradication of both feral cats and the two rattus species results in a slow increase in the number of endangered birds.

    Large Island Declared Rat-Free in Biggest Removal Success

    South Georgia Island near Antarctica is now teeming with native wildlife, thanks to an effort to remove invasive rats that had been devouring birds.

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...e-animals-spd/


    An Evaluation of Feral Cat Management Options Using a Decision Analysis Network

    https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol15/iss4/art10/

    Efforts are needed to protect native species from feral cats

    https://phys.org/news/2016-11-effort...cats.html#nRlv

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    Cats Responsible For Driving Many Species To Extinction

    https://www.iflscience.com/plants-an...to-extinction/

    Invasive predators major cause of species extinctions

    Introduced rodents, such as black rats and house mice, have the most widespread impacts of invasive predators worldwide, linked to the extinction of 75 species, including 52 birds, 21 mammals, and two reptiles.

    Feral cats aren’t far behind, coming a close second, contributing to 63 extinctions.


    On some islands, rats do slightly more damage than cats. On large continents like North America however, where native predators like hawks, foxes and Great Horned Owls prevent invasive species of rats from spreading into wilderness areas, cats do far more damage to native songbird populations, especially because unlike rats they are sustained and protected by their human owners.

    I saw a Cooper's Hawk take a Norway rat in a large local park not too long ago. Rats are just the right size to make for a good meal for a Great Horned Owl, a Cooper's or Red-tailed Hawk or a Coyote, and probably easier to catch than native rodents which have adapted to these native predators during many thousands of years of evolution.

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