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    Default Re: Gervonta Davis. Next star or next also ran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    According to Ranallo, Al and Jim Grey the questions finally been answered . Had to. For whatever the flaws career trajectory and competition wise, the mans improved just a bit.
    The commentary was way over the top and nauseating. Davis has improved and has some huge fights in front of him but somehow I think he will end up like Broner. He should get rid of "hanger on's" like Floyd.
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    The man just came out of a thrilling win and this is how you treat a warrior...
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    Hey... no hate over here for Gervonta. As far as I'm concerned he did boxing a favor by putting an emphatic lid on all this nonsense about PauperRy being the next face of boxing... when all the kid has done is amass a gargantuan following on Instagram and Tik Tok. For that I'm grateful. Not only that... but it was by KO.

    But is Gervonta now "the next face of boxing"? Hell no! Just like Ryan wouldn't have been had he somehow beaten Tank. This is all part of the "I want it now" generation, which wants to take shortcuts to the top... rather than grind it out like the warriors of old used to do. Tank DOES need to call out the winner of Haney-Loma... and continue trying to ascend beyond that. Otherwise he's just an exciting boxing facade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    According to Ranallo, Al and Jim Grey the questions finally been answered . Had to. For whatever the flaws career trajectory and competition wise, the mans improved just a bit.
    The commentary was way over the top and nauseating. Davis has improved and has some huge fights in front of him but somehow I think he will end up like Broner. He should get rid of "hanger on's" like Floyd.

    and lay off eating $70 bucks worth of sugar and candy while camp....
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Shakur Stevenson told TMZ: “I felt Tank looked sharp, he looked real sharp, he boxed real good.

    “I think Ryan was like pre-school, Ryan wasn’t on that top level.

    “When they speak about the ‘Four Kings’, all of the ‘Four Kings’ were special, great fighters and I don’t think Ryan was on that kind of level, I don’t think Ryan was that good.

    “I ain’t taking no credit away from Tank, Tank did what he was supposed to do, but Ryan just wasn’t that.”

    Asked if he wants to face Davis, Stevenson said: “I would love that fight.

    “I think that’s the biggest and best fight in the sport of boxing.

    “You’ve got special fighters that come around. You got like a Michael Jordan that came around in his era. Then you got a LeBron James that came around in his era.

    “But they weren’t in the same era so we never got to see them go against each other.

    “With me and Tank, you’ve got two special fighters that have been special our whole careers and our whole lives.

    “When it comes down to it, it’s going to be the biggest and best fight in boxing.

    “The people who really know boxing going to tell you that’s the big fight and I agree with them. I think that that’s the biggest fight.”


    Sadly though, when asked to give a realistic timeframe for the fight to happen, Stevenson admitted he is not massively confident that it will materialise in the very near future.

    “I’m ready right now, I’m ready right now,” he insisted, “But I think it’s depending on what he wants to do. He’s the cash cow, he’s the A-side.

    “He can pick and choose right now. He’s at that point.

    “He’s like at the Floyd Mayweather point where he can go, ‘I’ll fight him, I’ll fight him, but I’ll wait to fight him.’

    “He’s got that type of leverage right now so it’s all up to him. Nothing but respect to what he just did, I respect it.”

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    See now... I can GET behind a Shakur vs Tank fight. THAT would merit all the hype it gets. See... here's the difference between a fight like that, and what we just witnessed. Shakur has been fighting credible and dangerous opposition almost since Day One. AND... he's been doing it relatively quietly. He doesn't wear a damn crown on his head... he doesn't claim to be the next face of boxing. He just goes out there and does his job. He doesn't have a billion groupies on social media, fawning over everything he does. His resume is ten times better than the Pauper's resume.

    So hell yeah I'd get behind a fight like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See now... I can GET behind a Shakur vs Tank fight. THAT would merit all the hype it gets. See... here's the difference between a fight like that, and what we just witnessed. Shakur has been fighting credible and dangerous opposition almost since Day One. AND... he's been doing it relatively quietly. He doesn't wear a damn crown on his head... he doesn't claim to be the next face of boxing. He just goes out there and does his job. He doesn't have a billion groupies on social media, fawning over everything he does. His resume is ten times better than the Pauper's resume.

    So hell yeah I'd get behind a fight like that.
    i think davis must like fighting these bigger guys because he can punch in between all those big wide punches he makes them throw. boxing has a sort of gravity, a kind of push and pull, and the way davis fights is to deliberately create a lot of pull and pull out those big wide punches to punch in between. he just has to sort of wait it out and let the effect manifest itself. ryan said he got bored, but, did he get bored, or did tank's effect kick in? that will be very, very hard to do to stevenson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See now... I can GET behind a Shakur vs Tank fight. THAT would merit all the hype it gets. See... here's the difference between a fight like that, and what we just witnessed. Shakur has been fighting credible and dangerous opposition almost since Day One. AND... he's been doing it relatively quietly. He doesn't wear a damn crown on his head... he doesn't claim to be the next face of boxing. He just goes out there and does his job. He doesn't have a billion groupies on social media, fawning over everything he does. His resume is ten times better than the Pauper's resume.

    So hell yeah I'd get behind a fight like that.
    i think davis must like fighting these bigger guys because he can punch in between all those big wide punches he makes them throw. boxing has a sort of gravity, a kind of push and pull, and the way davis fights is to deliberately create a lot of pull and pull out those big wide punches to punch in between. he just has to sort of wait it out and let the effect manifest itself. ryan said he got bored, but, did he get bored, or did tank's effect kick in? that will be very, very hard to do to stevenson.
    Does Usyk do the same with the heavyweights he faces particularly AJ?
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    usyk is more stationary. tank moves and makes himself small and compact to get you lunging and reaching to hit him, and once he can get you doing that, he can explode into those big openings he pulled out of you. he fights a little bit like a sink drain moving around in the ring. but he doesn't punch a lot, because he wants you doing all the punching. and all of this combines into the feeling of impatience described by ryan garcia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See now... I can GET behind a Shakur vs Tank fight. THAT would merit all the hype it gets. See... here's the difference between a fight like that, and what we just witnessed. Shakur has been fighting credible and dangerous opposition almost since Day One. AND... he's been doing it relatively quietly. He doesn't wear a damn crown on his head... he doesn't claim to be the next face of boxing. He just goes out there and does his job. He doesn't have a billion groupies on social media, fawning over everything he does. His resume is ten times better than the Pauper's resume.

    So hell yeah I'd get behind a fight like that.
    i think davis must like fighting these bigger guys because he can punch in between all those big wide punches he makes them throw. boxing has a sort of gravity, a kind of push and pull, and the way davis fights is to deliberately create a lot of pull and pull out those big wide punches to punch in between. he just has to sort of wait it out and let the effect manifest itself. ryan said he got bored, but, did he get bored, or did tank's effect kick in? that will be very, very hard to do to stevenson.

    Wait... Ryan said he got bored??

    Can't say I'd be surprised if he did... as this is the time when the excuses come flooding out. Why should Ryan be any different?

    Watching the sequence leading up to the first knockdown... I noticed how Davis ducked a few Ryan flurries that seemed to come one after the other. His boxing computer was taking that information all in... so that when the next flurry came (also, Ryan seemed bent on landing that check hook)... Davis was ready with the counter and it worked to perfection.

    I would expect Davis vs Stevenson to be a much different fight. Stevenson's much too polished to fall into those traps.

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    the ring removed juan francisco estrada to make room for tank in their pound for pound
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Wait... Ryan said he got bored??

    Can't say I'd be surprised if he did... as this is the time when the excuses come flooding out. Why should Ryan be any different?

    Watching the sequence leading up to the first knockdown... I noticed how Davis ducked a few Ryan flurries that seemed to come one after the other. His boxing computer was taking that information all in... so that when the next flurry came (also, Ryan seemed bent on landing that check hook)... Davis was ready with the counter and it worked to perfection.

    I would expect Davis vs Stevenson to be a much different fight. Stevenson's much too polished to fall into those traps.
    he says in the post fight press conference that he was getting bored and thats why he was running into shots. but i think davis was the reason for both of those things. a bigger man's punches will have bigger arcs and with davis being small like master pointed out about usyk they can insert their smaller quicker punches into those bigger wider gulfs - provided they can get them to load up on big shots like that. tank cant do that to stevenson. i dont think tank beats stevenson. i dont think stevenson loses a fight to anybody for a while.

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