Your a different story.
If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.
Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...
Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!
Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!
I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.
Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?
I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.
I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.
Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
Yeah you are right @ross
Mormeck isn't as good a KOer as Holyfield.
Stand corrected!
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
Evander wins. An ATG fighter, best cruiserweight ever beats a flash in the pan with athleticism every time. Regardless of how anyone wants to qualify or excuse the loss, Haye suffered a stoppage defeat against an over the hill opponent. Evander completely cleaned out cruiser and ruined careers.
As for Evander being featherfisted, have to completely disagree with you on that one. Evander was the first to drop Riddick Bowe and Ray Mercer, obliterated Moorer when he was healthy and scored an impressive knockout of Tyson. Evander wasn't a puncher on the level of Shavers, Foreman, Tyson or Lewis but he was by no means as soft a puncher as say Chris Byrd or Maurice Harris.
Thinking of who Holyfield beat and who Haye would have trouble with....Dokes, Mercer, Bowe, Moorer....think how Haye would do vs those guys
I can't believe this is even in question In this corner you have an ATG who fought the very best...multiple times. In the other corner you have a man who choked in his only high level heavyweight competition and is more active on Twitter than the ring. This is man vs boy. Holyfield is way to deep, sturdy and battle tested for Haye.
Bowe taking the shots he did vs golata from haye... Ouch!
On a prime v prime note I'd love to see haye bowe!
Haha that's a fair point ... Although we did are haye caught by wlad a couple times and he stood up well tbf
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Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!
I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.
Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?
I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.
I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.
Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud![/QUOTE]
Styles may make fights, but Prime vs Prime, Tyson beats the shit out of Holyfield , Tyson, Wlad, Vitaly, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all!
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