David Haye- wasted talent?

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

[ross]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

[ross]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

Ill have a think then if you don't care

[El Kabong]

Talk about setting your self up for a fall.

When Wlad loses his whole career is ruined

If the fight gets made how about a little wager?

What and how?

Fuck if I care Wlad isn't losing to that fat gypo

Ill have a think then if you don't care

Have one. Also if Wlad doesn't stop Fury I won't hold you to your end, how's that?

[mrbig1]

Haye was never a wasted talent. He was a very good fighter who beat some big names. At least he's not broke and homeless. He still has all his marbles. He has done the right thing not to end up like Holyfield or Toney who still has to fight to pay bills. Big Haye fan and have been for years.

[SlimTrae]

Haye was never a wasted talent. He was a very good fighter who beat some big names. At least he's not broke and homeless. He still has all his marbles. He has done the right thing not to end up like Holyfield or Toney who still has to fight to pay bills. Big Haye fan and have been for years.

Holy & Tony's boxing life spans over several decades.

88 fights 23 years championships in MW, SMW, LHW, CW & fought at HW- has been named P4P in his life. Money can be made & lost, but U cant take away those accolades.
Point being: 23 years of fighting, yeah money has to be managed right, but whose to say where Haye will be when he is 45ish. That's a decade away M8.

27 years for Holy who won a major title in his 12th pro fight- cleaned out CW division, Has been named P4P the best. Beat the beast Tyson, has been etched in the boxing books for greatest fights with Bowe & did this in less than 50 fights.

He has been in more title fights than Haye has had fights in his smallish 10 year career with what? 28 fights? How many Top 5 fighters has he fought, let alone champs? I won't denigrate the European title he has held, but that's not a world title belt be it alphabet. & the fighters he's beaten? Have already been beaten.

Haye is a disgrace. With talent, makes it all the more punkified. He called the HW division a disgrace, then puss'd out vs Wlad... Dude really made Wlad look like a heluva champ.
Wlad was already a great champ, but Haye just proved how he could never be a fighter on his level.

[Max Power]

I can somewhat agree here. He has been a wasted talent.

Not quite ready to write him off yet. When he comes back and we can visibly see his decline, then I'll be on board all the way.

[ross]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

[Max Power]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

Well it's kinda like this man...

I don't wanna be jerked around by the little bastard anymore either.

But if he DOES come back and fight, I'll be both interested, and, should he prove further to be still a top contender (which injury aside, I don't see how he wouldn't be), then I'd be happy about it.

Haye was the best Cruiser of the 00's generation and at some point toward the end of Vitali's career, imo the 2nd best HW boxer in the world. And he brought style and action with him.

A guy with such speed and slickness and a 95% KOratio can't help but captivate just a little.

[ross]

I cant believe theres still people who want him back!

The last three fights he was supposed to be back, he actually signed but didnt fight!

Then he announced early last year he was going to be fighting in september last year and guess what... He didn't fight.

Wise up, he's not doing anything more than he has.

Well it's kinda like this man...

I don't wanna be jerked around by the little bastard anymore either.

But if he DOES come back and fight, I'll be both interested, and, should he prove further to be still a top contender (which injury aside, I don't see how he wouldn't be), then I'd be happy about it.

Haye was the best Cruiser of the 00's generation and at some point toward the end of Vitali's career, imo the 2nd best HW boxer in the world. And he brought style and action with him.

A guy with such speed and slickness and a 95% KOratio can't help but captivate just a little.

How can Haye be the best cruiser of the 00's when he lost to Thompson? Thompson wanted a rematch and Haye didn't. He also never faced Cunningham ( the only man to stop Huck) the IBF champion.

He only beat Macaranelli and Mormeck and thats it. Adamek had a better resume at cruiser than Haye!

Haye had Braithwaite, Huck, Adamek and Jones also. He would have likely lost to all. Mormeck and Macaranelli are not known for their resiliance those others are. He wont face anyone strong who can fight back.

[El Kabong]

Haye's soul wasn't in the game, he was very skilled but his record shows he enjoys the hypeman/showman aspect more so than the actual fighting. Haye loved to do talk shows, interviews, pre-fight pressers, etc but in the ring I cannot say with certainty that he "loved his job"....in the gym I am sure he worked hard as hell, you don't get ripped like that without putting in the time, but I think in the end he wanted to be a movie star, a celebrity, something other than a boxer. David Haye is the epitome of the title "Prize Fighter". Now I think he was very skilled as a boxer, but of course I question his dedication after calling it quits when 1 heavyweight unification title fight didn't go his way, how could I not? I think Haye could have fought and probably SHOULD HAVE fought all the guys you mention ross, he also had plenty of heavyweights to look at for big money fights.

[Master]

Haye overacheived as a heavyweight and there was no disgrace in his loss against Wlad who has broken Tyson, Fraizier, Lewis, and Holmes number of title defences.

[El Kabong]

Haye overacheived as a heavyweight.

I don't buy that for a second! He EASILY beat every other heavyweight he fought and if you're going to tell me "Well those were handpicked opponents" it doesn't much matter they (aside from Monte Barrett) were all still highly rated at the time. I don't know if Haye truly believed he belonged or if he just didn't have the heart to do it, but shit he was certainly skilled enough to be the #2 man in the division he just had to go out and work for it and for whatever reason he didn't.

[Master]

Haye overacheived as a heavyweight.

I don't buy that for a second! He EASILY beat every other heavyweight he fought and if you're going to tell me "Well those were handpicked opponents" it doesn't much matter they (aside from Monte Barrett) were all still highly rated at the time. I don't know if Haye truly believed he belonged or if he just didn't have the heart to do it, but shit he was certainly skilled enough to be the #2 man in the division he just had to go out and work for it and for whatever reason he didn't.

Haye would not have lasted had it been early 1990's. He would have stayed at cruiserweight.