Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

[Bill Paxtom]

or ridicuous depending on your perspective

Well atleast nobody can accuse old Bill of not being dedicated lol

They can accuse him of being mentally unstable about Ali.

~ Before Round 6 ~

Angelo Dundee had told his fighter at the end of Round 5 >
"Go finish this guy. He's been hanging around too long. He's open for the chopping
right-hand lead {'Anchor Punch'}."

"Muhammad, feint him with the left, and come back quick over the top with the right-hand."

Cassius Clay >
"He's quicker than I thought 'Ang'. He's quick, and when he moves to his right, I can't
get the angle I need. I'll jab at his eyes, and then I'll put one on him."


Bruno Mueller >
"Keep moving to the right 'Milde'. And when you jab, double it up. He doesn't know how to
handle the double jab. He's fast, but stiff-legged."

Karl Mildenberger >
I'm fine. I feel fine. That 'Knockdown' was just a flash. I'm OK. It's just that the blood
is bothering me, and I'm having a hard time seeing out of my right-eye."

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Scorecards ~

End of Bout

* Referee - Teddy Waltham ...... 7-2-2
* Judge - Nat Fleischer ............. 8-3-0
* Judge - Felix Ohlert ............... 6-3-2

* Associated Press ................... 9-1-1
* UPI ...................................... 7-0-4
* Stars and Stripes ................... 8-1-2
* Sport Illustrated .................... 7-3-1
* Der Spiegel ........................... 6-3-2

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 7 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
0:08 > Cassius immediately goes after Mildenberger's cut right-eye, and fires in a chopping left-hand.
0:12 > Cassius circles to his left.
0:16 > Cassius circles to his right.

0:20 > Mildenberger is pressing forward.
0:27 > Cassius lands a stiff left-jab to Mildenberger's right-eye.
0:38 > Cassius scores with another left-jab.
0:40 > Mildenberger is staying aggressive.

0:42 > Mildenberger scores with a measuring right-jab.
0:45 > Mildenberger scores with '3' straight right-hands to the mid-section.
0:52 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.
0:54 > Cassius has his hands help up high.

1:00 > Mildenberger is pressing, and lands with several pawing right-hands to the Champion's face.
1:02 > Cassius is now backing up fast.
1:04 > Cassius flicks out '3' left-jabs.
1:06 > Cassius lands with a good left-hand to the head.

1:08 > Mildenberger lands with '3' straight right-jabs to the face.
1:12 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with '2' right-hooks to the face.
1:16 > Cassius is again backing up fast.
1:18 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.

1:24 > Both are missing with jabs.
1:36 > Mildenberger gets through with '2' good right-hands to the face.
1:38 > Cassius is now moving with his hands down, and held low.
1:40 > Mildenberger scores with a 'crisp' right-left.

1:42 > Cassius moves to the front-center Ropes.
1:44 > Cassius circles 180*.
1:45 > Cassius fires out '2' snapping left-jabs.
1:49 > Mildenberger lands a good right-hand to the body.

1:51 > Cassius misses with a 'left-right'.
1:54 > Cassius circles to his right.
1:55 > Mildenberger is still pressing forward aggressively.
2:00 > Cassius lands with a 'glancing' right-hand lead.

2:05 > Mildenberger presses forward, and fires off several right-hands but misses with all '4' punches.
2:09 > Cassius goes back to circling to his right.
2:11 > Mildenberger scores with '2' pawing right-hands.
2:15 > Cassius counters with '2' sharp left-jabs to the face.

2:18 > Cassius now moves to his left.
2:20 > Mildenberger steps forward, and lands with a stiff right-hand to the body.
2:22 > Cassius scores with several 'pecking' left-jabs to the face.
2:24 > Mildenberger is now bleeding profusely from under the 'right-eye'.

2:25 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
2:27 > Cassius flicks out '2' left-jabs.
2:29 > Cassius misses with a right-hand lead.
2:40 > Both fighters are circling at Center-Ring, while flicking out light jabs.

2:44 > Cassius moves in close, and lands with a short left-right to Mildenberger's chin.
2:48 > Cassius tries, but misses with a 'right-left'.
2:52 > Mildenberger moves to the back Ropes, and blocks while riding out the Round.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 7 > 'Even'

[Max Power]

@Master...

What you mean? Bill has some reservations about my old mate Ali? I knew there was something alright about him!

But no more wishing harm/death upon the guy Bill if that's what happened before... That shit ain't cool, he was still a great of the sport.

I will only trash his boxing performance LOL

[Bill Paxtom]

In This Bout

Cassius Clay displayed lightning-fast movement.

But the guy just couldn't punch, and he missed with 80% of his punches.

Karl Mildenberger was only 194 lbs., and was a face-forward moving fighter
with absolutely no punch.

Still, the German Challenger was giving the Champion 'fits'.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 8 ~

0:02 > Both fighters meet at Center-Ring.
0:05 > Cassius immediately goes to circling to his right.
0:10 > Mildenberger stalks, and flicks right-jabs to the mid-section while moving forward.
0:18 > Cassius is now flicking out left-jabs.

0:27 > Cassius is now circling to his left, and is looking to target the cut under Mildenberger's right-eye.
0:30 > Mildenberger steps forward, and lands a fast 'right-left'.
0:33 > Cassius backs to the left-side Ring area.
0:38 > Cassis moves to the front-center ring area.

0:40 > Mildenberger sends in another right-jab.
0:45 > Mildenberger flicks in a 'triple' right-jab.
0:47 > Cassius is now leaning back with his hands down low to avoid the punches.
0:54 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.

1:01 > Mildenberger lands with '2' sharp right-jabs.
1:02 > Cassius is 'not' punching back.
1:04 > Mildenberger socres with a good right to the body.
1:05 > Cassius counters with a left-jab.

1:08 > Mildenberger lands with a fast 'right-left'.
1:09 > Cassius moves to the front-center Ring area.
1:12 > Both trade jabs.
1:18 > Cassius starts circling to his left.

1:20 > Cassius starts flicking out left-jabs.
1:22 > Cassius 'misses' with a long left-hand.
1:26 > Mildenberger is still pressing forward, and is making the fight.
1:28 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.

1:29 > Mildenberger moves in fast, and 'scores' with '2' right-hands to the body.
1:30 > Mildenberger follows up with a crushing straight left-hand on Cassius's chin.
1:31 > Cassius' head snaps sideways as he is driven into the front-left Corner.
1:32 > Mildenberger moves in, and adds in a short 'right-left'.

1:33 > Mildenberger is now going after the Champion.
1:35 > Cassius spins out 180*, and circles out of the Corner, and flicks out '2' left-jabs.
1:34 > Mildenberger moves to the front-left Ropes.
1:35 > Cassius flicks in '2' left-jabs.

1:40 > Mildenberger moves to the right-side Ring area as Cassius follows.
1:49 > Cassius moves back to Center-Ring, and scores with '3' light left-jabs as Mildenberger comes in.
1:51 > Mildenberger 'bobs-and-weaves' to avoid follow up jabs.
1:53 > Mildenberger sends out '3' measuring right-jabs.

1:54 > Cassius backs up to the back Ring area.
1:56 > Cassius sends out 'poking' left-jabs as he circles to left-side Center Ring.
2:00 > Mildenberger steps forward, and scores with a solid 'right-right-left' to the head.
2:01 > Cassius is driven into the left-side Ropes.

2:02 > Mildenberger moves in, and slams a solid left-hook into the right-side of the Champion's body.
2:04 > Mildenberger sends in a 'series-of-punches' into the Champion's head and body, who is now covering up.
2:07 > Cassius backs out to Center-Ring
2:08 > Cassius stops, and fires out with '8' left-jabs, while circling to his left, but most of the jabs 'miss'.

2:14 > Mildenberger continues to press forward aggressively.
2:17 > Cassius backs into the front-right Corner.
2:21 > Cassius fires out a straight right-hand lead to the head as Mildenberger comes barreling in.
2:22 > Mildenberger has his hands low as he is coming in.

2:24 > Cassius side-steps to his right, and whips in a 'crushing' left-hook to Mildenberger's chin.
2:25 > Mildenberger goes down on the seat of his pants to the right of the front-right Corner.
2:27 > Mildenberger is up at the '2-Count', and steps out towards Center-Ring.
2:34 > Referee - Teddy Waltham complete the 'Mandatory 8-Count'.

2:36 > Cassius moves towards Center-Ring from the front-left Corner.
2:37 > Cassius 'misses' with a big left-hook.
2:39 > Mildenberger comes charging in with '3' right-jabs, and backs the Champion up.
2:40 > Cassis is backed up to the front Ropes.

2:41 > Cassius circles out 180*, and backs up to Center-Ring.
2:42 > Mildenberger turns and pursues the Champion.
2:43 > Cassius fires out with a fast 'right-left'.
2:45 > Mildenberger counters with '3' fast right-jabs.

2:47 > Mildenberger presses forward with hands low again.
2:48 > Cassius backs up to the back-left Corner area.
2:50 > Cassius catches Mildenberger coming in with a hard left-hook to the chin.
2:50 > Mildenberger is 'stunned'.

2:51 > Cassius misses with a left-hook, but catches Mildenberger with a 'glancing' right-hand.
2:52 > Cassius misses with '2' left-hooks.
2:54 > Mildenberger is on the left-side back Ropes, and is bending low to avoid the punches.
2:55 > Cassius fires in with a hard 'left-right'.

2:56 > Cassius unloads with an '8-Punch' fast flurry, but most of the punches miss.
2:59 > Mildenberger is covering up well.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 8 > The Champion Cassius Clay by +2 Points.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 8 ~

At 2:25 of Round 8, Karl Mildenberger while pressing forward wth his hands down low, walks into a
wide left-hook from Champion - Cassius Clay.

The knockdown occurred while the Champion was backed up into the front-right Corner..

Karl Mildenberger bounced up at the '2-Count' and then received the Mandatory Count from
Referee - Teddy Waltham before continuing

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Comments After Round 8 ~

Howard Cosell >

"The Champion has yet to prove that he can punch. He's hit Mildenbeger with his
best left-hook, and he only had him down for 2-Seconds."

"And Cassius caught a groggy Mildenberger coming forward with a another big left-hook
on the other side of the Ring, and he couldn't drop him."
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Joe Louis >

"Clay is fast and cat-quick like a Jaquar, but his punches can't squash a Tomato. He best
start doing some wood-chopping after this bout."

"MIldenberger is walking straight in, and he does not have a great chin. And still, Clay
can't stop him."
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Max Schmeling >

"Mildenberger is putting up a much better fight than expected. But that's because the Champion
can't punch."

"Oh, Joe Louis is much better than this guy. Clay can't punch."
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Ingemar Johansson >

"Mildenberger is horrible, and he's staying even with Clay. If it wasn't for the '2 Knockdowns,
he'd be winning."

"Mildenberger does very well, right up until the last 20-Seconds of the Round. That's when the
Champion turns it on. You would think Mildenberger would learn and just box over the last
20-seconds instead of attacking with his hands down."

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 9 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring and touch gloves.
0:04 > Cassius fires first with a left-jab.
0:08 > Both circle.
0:14 > Mildenberger counters with a quick right-jab to the mid-section.

0:17 > Cassius flicks in a left-jab.
0:22 > Mildenberger is stalking again.
0:26 > Cassius sends in a chopping left-hand to Mildenberger's left-eye.
0:29 > Mildenberger scores with '2' good right-hands to the body.

0:30 > Cassius backs up fast to the front-center Ring.
0:32 > Cassius flicks out '2' quick left-jabs.
0:34 > Cassius circles to his left 180*.
0:36 > Cassius is 'slapping' with his punches.

0:37 > Referee - Teddy Waltham warns Cassius for slapping.
0:40 > Cassius lands with a 'light' left-right.
0:41 > The fighters are both at Center-ring.
0:44 > Mildenberger is pressing, but he cannot get close enough to fire at the Champion.

0:54 > Mildenberger moves in fast, and scores with a good right-hand to the body.
1:00 > Cassius continues to flick out left-jabs.
1:09 > Mildenberger is moving well, and easily blocks most of the left-jabs coming in.
1:18 > Mildenberger fires in with '3' right-jabs, but they all come up short.

1:20 > Mildenberger lands with a good right-hand to the Champion's chin, snapping his head.
1:21 > The Waldstadion Stadium erupts with roars.
1:24 > Cassius has his hands low, and is leaning back to avoid the punches.
1:35 > Both fighters are now 'pawing' each other with jabs.

1:45 > Mildenberger steps forward, and scores with '2' good right-hands to the chin.
1:50 > Cassius slaps with a fast 'left-left-right', but the punches lack zip.
1:51 > Mildenberger lands with a '2' right-hands.
1:52 > Cassius moves to the back-left Ring area.

1:54 > Cassius moves to his left now.
1:57 > Cassius fires out with a fast 'left-left-right', but they all miss.
1:59 > Mildenberger counters with a 'stiff' right-hand to the face.
2:00 > Cassius moves to the front-right Corner.

2:04 > Cassius is now moving fast to his left.
2:12 > Cassius misses with a big sweeping right-hook.
2:20 > Mildenberger lands with '4' pecking right-jabs.
2:22 > Cassius misses again with a 'left-right'.

2:25 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.
2:27 > Cassius lands with '2' fast left-jabs.
2:29 > Cassius circles to the front Ring area.
2:30 > Mildenberger catches Cassius with '2' right-jabs.
2:31 > Mildenberger comes back with a good left-hand to the body, and a solid right-hook to the chin that 'snaps' the Champion's head.

2:32 > Cassius back-pedals fast out to Center-Ring as the Waldstadion Stadium erupts with roars.
2:34 > Cassius is 'pushing' his punches out now, and has no zip behind them.
2:41 > Cassius lands a good left-jab to the Challenger's face.
2:51 > Mildenberger lands with a scoring right-jab to the mid-section.

2:52 > The fighters are at Center-Ring.
2:53 > Cassius digs in a left-hook to the body.
2:55 > Cassius fires away with a fast '5-Punch' combination, but they all glance of the Challenger.
2:56 > Cassius moves to the front Ring area.

2:57 > Mildenberger is 'bobbing' and avoids most of the punches.
2:58 > Cassius fires in with a right-hand, and again misses.
2:59 > Mildenberger counters with a right-hand.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 9 > Was clearly for Karl Mildenberger.

Referee - Teddy Waltham scored Round 9 for Karl Mildenberger.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Comments During Round 9 ~

Howard Cosell >
"Joe, Cassius really pummeled the Challenger at the end of Round 8. Why isn't he
finishing Mildenberger off."

Joe Louis >
{Laughing}. Because he doesn't have the killer instinct Howard. He can't get this guy
out of here. He's letting him hang around too long."

Howard Cosell >
"The Champ has yet to prove that he has a punch. Angelo told me after Round 5 that
Cassius would put him away in the 6th, and he couldn't."

Joe Louis >
"I would be worried if this guy had a chin, but Mildenberger doesn't. That is why I'm
still not convinced on Clay. He's fast, but he's missing with most of his punches. And this
guy walks straight in asking to be hit. It's kind of embarrassing."

Howard Cosell >
"Well, is the Champion weak Joe."

Joe Loius >
"Well, he ain't strong."
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~ Comments After Round 9 ~

Howard Cosell >
"How do you have it scored Joe. I have Cassius well ahead. With the '2' Knockdowns,
he's up by 5-Points on my Card."

Joe Louis >
"It's close Howard. Mildenberger won the last Round, and he's still annoying Clay with
those bird-pecking right-hands."

Howard Cosell >
"Are you saying you have the bout 'all even' Joe."

Joe Louis >
"I said it was close. I have Clay up by 1-Point."

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 10 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
0:04 > Cassius moves to his right along the back Ring area.
0:08 > Cassius changes direction, and moves to his left.
0:10 > Mildenberger is 'stalking'.

0:15 > Both trade jabs at Center-Ring.
0:18 > Cassius sends in a chopping left-hand to the face.
0:19 > Mildenberger counters with a solid left-hand to the chest, which drives the Champion backwards.
0:20 > The Wladstadion Stadium erupts with 'roars'.

0:22 > Mildenberger lands with a 'solid' left to the Champion's jaw.
0:23 > Cassius wobbles backwards to the front-right Corner.
0:24 > Mildenberger moves in close.
0:26 > Cassius grabs and holds, and then spins out 180* to Center-Ring.

0:32 > Cassius is flicking out 'poking' left-jabs.
0:34 > Mildenberger counters with a left-hand lead to the chin.
0:39 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.
0:43 > Mildenberger flicks in a double right-jab to the Champion's face.

0:45 > Cassius back-pedals along the right-side Ropes.
0:47 > Mildenberger sends in '2' straight right-hands into the Champion's chest.
0:48 > Mildenberger slams in a hard straight-left into the Champion's mid-section.
0:49 > Cassius's legs 'buckle', and he is hurt.

0:50 > The Waldsadion Stadium fans rise to their feet and erupt with 'roars'.
0:51 > Cassius backs up into the back-right Corner.
0:55 > Cassius circles to his left and 180*as Mldenberger moves in.
1:01 > Mildenberger is chasing the Champion as he circles 180* to the back-center Ring area.

1:07 > Mildenberger 'slips' to the canvas as he is moving in on the Champion.
1:09 > Cassius backs out to Center-Ring, and bides time by staying outside.
1:13 > Mildenberger sticks in a right to the chest.
1:17 > Mildenberger stays aggressive, and scores with a 'right-right'.

1:19 > Mildenberger lands with another 'good' left to the body.
1:22 > The Champion is 'flopping' around the Ring.
1:25 > Cassius misses with a 'big-swinging' right-hand.
1:26 > Mildenberger is completely dominating the Round.

1:27 > Mildenberger lands with a 'double' right-hand as he chases the Champion around the Ring.
1;28 > Mildenberger chases the Chanpion who now back-pedals to the back Ring area.
1:29 > Mldenerbger pushes out a straight right-hand to the chin.
1:30 > Cassius comes back with a 'right-hand slam' into the left-side of Mildenberger's head.

1:30 > This Round has the fastest action of the bout so far.
1:31 > Cassius lands with a left-jab, but misses with a follow-up left.
1:33 > Cassius moves to his left.
1:35 > Mildenberger connects with a 'double' right-hand.

1:37 > Cassius moves over to the right-side Ropes.
1:41 > Cassius spins off the Ropes, and races out to Center-Ring.
1:44 > Cassius scores with a fast 'left-right' to the Challenger's chin as he walks in with his hands low.
1:48 > Mildenberger lands with another right-hand.

1:50 > Cassius circles to his left, to the back Ring area.
1:51 > Cassius tries with a 'lazy' right-hand, but he looks arm-weary as there is 'nothing' on the punch.
1:53 > Cassius circles 180* to the front Ring area.
1:54 > Cassius is completely frustrated, as he backs up into the front Ropes.

1:57 > Mildenberger chugs forward, and digs '2' left-hooks into the left-side of the Champion.
1:59 > Mildenberger drapes his right-arm over the Champion's neck.
2:01 < Cassius backs out to Center-Ring.
2:02 > Cassius 'misses' with a wide right-hook.

2:04 > Cassius moves back to the back Ropes.
2:07 > Mildenberger pecks away with right jabs.
2:09 > Cassius slides to his left.
2:13 > Cassius fires in with a right-hook and left uppercut, both which graze the Challenger.

2:15 > Mildenberger is still pressing.
2:16 > Cassius moves to the front Ring area.
2:17 > Cassius moves over to the left-side Ring area.
2:18 > Cassius catches Mildenberger with a straight right-hand to the head.

2:19 > The Waldstadion Stadium crowd is gong wild as Mildenberer is still charging and punching.
2:20 > Mildenberger is now bleeding badly from a 'cut' under his left-eye.
2:21 > Cassius lands with a 'grazing' left-right, and backs up to the left-front Ropes.
2:22 > Mildenberger comes charging in.

2:22 > Cassius catches Mildenberger with a 'right-left' flush on the chin.
2:23 > Mildenberger stumbles face-first into the front-left Corner.
2:24 > Mldenberger is 'shaken', but turns to his right, and goes right back after the Champion.
2:25 > Cassius backs away to Center-Ring.

2:26 > Cassius lands a right-hand to Mildenberger's left-eye.
2:28 > Mildenberger 'paws' at his cut left-eye, and his right-eye is bleeding as well.
2:31 > Cassius 'misses' with a right-hand lead.
2:33 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.

2:35 > Cassius lands with a 'slapping' left-right.
2:38 > Mildenberger is 'bobbing' and avoids the punches.
2:39 > Mildenberger 'paws' with '3' right-jabs.
2:40 > Cassius backs up to the front Ropes.

2:42 > Cassius is slow with a 'right-left-right'.
2:45 > Cassius moves out to Center-Ring.
2:48 > Mildenberger is 'pawing' with slow right-hands.
2:50 > Cassius steps in, and catches Mildenberger with a perfect straight right-hand to the chin.

2:51 > Mildenberger goes down on his back, but does a reverse-roll and ends up near the front-left Ropes.
2:56 > The Challenger pulls himself up at the '5-Count'.
2:59 > Referee - Teddy Waltham completes the 'Mandatory 8-Count', with Mildenberger standing near the left-side Ropes.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 10 ...... Cassius Clay

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 10 ~

Without a doubt, the 'Round of the Year' in the Heavyweight Division.

The Challenger dominated nearly the entire Round, as Karl Mildenberger was
chasing Cassius Clay out of the Waldstadion Stadium.

Mildenberger was pressuring the Champion while hitting him with everything he threw.

The Challenger was wildy-aggressive and had the Waldstadion fans in a frenzy by
the 2:10 Mark.

But Mildenberger was coming straight in and wide-open, and walked into a 'lucky'
right-left to the chin at the {2:20 Mark} as he had backed the Champion up near
the left-side Ropes.

Mildenberger fell face-first into the front-left Corner, but despite being 'shaken', he
went right back after the Champion with right-hands.

The Champion fired back, but was missing with everything, despite the Challenger
walking straight in. The Champion looked arm-weary as he fired away.

Then Mildenberger moved the Champion to Center-Ring with pawing right-hands,
but he was leaving himself wide-open for a counter straight right-hand.

Then it happened, at the {2:51 Mark}, the Champion 'closed-his-eyes' and threw a
straight right-hand down 'Broadway' as the Challenger was walking in.

The punch landed on the 'point' of Mildenberger's chin.

Karl went down on his back, and did a reverse-roll and ended up near the front-left
Ropes.

He struggled up at the '5-Count' and was ready to go after the Referee - Teddy Waltham
completed the 'Mandatory 8-Count' as the 'Bell' sounded ending Round 10.

[TitoFan]

Round 10 begins around the 36-minute mark. I like how Howard Cosell basically called the knockdown just before it happened, remarking how Mildenberger was vulnerable to the straight right hand, and..... BOOM!!

If this whole thread, riveting as it is, is meant as criticism toward Ali, I don't get it. He went to Germany to face a tough, ranked contender, and knocked him out. The same fighter who later on went the distance with tough, rugged Oscar Bonavena.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 10 ~

Karl Mildenberger down at {2:51} of Round 10.


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~ Some Odd-Ball Sports Reporter's Scoring ~

After 10-Rounds

New York Post 'Sports Reporter' Milton Richman did 'not' score a single Round for
Karl Mildenberger thru 10-Rounds. He had the Champion up 10-0-0 in Rounds,
and 12-0 in Points.

Howard Cosell had it {7-2-1} after 10-Rounds, and had Cassius up 10-3 in Points,
though 'Howie the Shill' did change his Scorecard 'twice' during announcing the bout.

The UPI {United Press International} had it {7-0-3} in Rounds.

'Stars and Stripes' had the Champion ahead {8-0-2} in Rounds.

The AP {Associated Press} had the Champion ahead {9-1-0} in Rounds.

[Andre]

Oh well, at least it was used as a good training session for Ali, he got to build some rounds without any danger to himself was a good move to use it like a sparring session and do round building once he realized there was no real threat.