Wilder v Fury 2 - Las Vegas

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

[Fenster]

This is now set for May 18th at MSG - NYC with Fury getting around £20 Million.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...ontay-13986997

He's donating the £20 million to the Manchester LGBTQ foundation.

[Memphis]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

How about when you are ready you go back and read the posts before mine. You started an entirely new conversation from what was said to try to be right. I’m embarrassed for you. It’s not even a good attempt at spin. But go ahead and try to spin again.

[Memphis]

I read it Ron, you chose to use it as an opportunity to reverse the hearse as you have done a million times over. So please, when ever you feel like it answer the question.

Cheers.

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

[Memphis]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

I’m not shifting the goalposts at all. This started from me people here saying Fury sold the fight with Wilder. People believing Eddies lies. Wilder has in fact and can be simply looked up brought great viewership in the USA. Fury has in fact not, he had his previous fight free fight available to all that brought less than 1/4 the viewership of Wilders previous fight that was only available to less than 15 million. To suggest the guy that doesn’t get the numbers suddenly got the numbers not the guy that always gets the numbers is preposterous. But it’s repeated here. There is a reason Wilder is suddenly going to get a huge and much larger payday than Fury, because of the facts. No matter what people repeat here that isn’t true.

You want to know why I insult this place often, read my last paragraph. You folks repeating nonsense has gotten worse and worse. Everyone in the industry recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. The world recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. But people on this site not only buy but repeat his nonsense over and over.

Just now you took one thing, turned it into another. Clearly accept that everything I said was true by not debating a word of it then act like I shifted the goalposts when I changed absolutely nothing about what I said ever. That’s BS. You wonder why I am annoyed with the current state of this place. Your crap post is a perfect example. Do better

You said nobody said eliminating one market makes more money. But people did say Fury vs AJ, Fury vs anyone in fact, is now the biggest fight. So either what you said is not true or you have some explaining because those things are mutually exclusive. So how can two contradictory things be true? Good luck explaining, I expect you to dodge

[smashup]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

I’m not shifting the goalposts at all. This started from me people here saying Fury sold the fight with Wilder. People believing Eddies lies. Wilder has in fact and can be simply looked up brought great viewership in the USA. Fury has in fact not, he had his previous fight free fight available to all that brought less than 1/4 the viewership of Wilders previous fight that was only available to less than 15 million. To suggest the guy that doesn’t get the numbers suddenly got the numbers not the guy that always gets the numbers is preposterous. But it’s repeated here. There is a reason Wilder is suddenly going to get a huge and much larger payday than Fury, because of the facts. No matter what people repeat here that isn’t true.

You want to know why I insult this place often, read my last paragraph. You folks repeating nonsense has gotten worse and worse. Everyone in the industry recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. The world recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. But people on this site not only buy but repeat his nonsense over and over.

Just now you took one thing, turned it into another. Clearly accept that everything I said was true by not debating a word of it then act like I shifted the goalposts when I changed absolutely nothing about what I said ever. That’s BS. You wonder why I am annoyed with the current state of this place. Your crap post is a perfect example. Do better

You said nobody said eliminating one market makes more money. But people did say Fury vs AJ, Fury vs anyone in fact, is now the biggest fight. So either what you said is not true or you have some explaining because those things are mutually exclusive. So how can two contradictory things be true? Good luck explaining, I expect you to dodge

You giving up smoking Ron or is it time of the month? 🤔

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

I’m not shifting the goalposts at all. This started from me people here saying Fury sold the fight with Wilder. People believing Eddies lies. Wilder has in fact and can be simply looked up brought great viewership in the USA. Fury has in fact not, he had his previous fight free fight available to all that brought less than 1/4 the viewership of Wilders previous fight that was only available to less than 15 million. To suggest the guy that doesn’t get the numbers suddenly got the numbers not the guy that always gets the numbers is preposterous. But it’s repeated here. There is a reason Wilder is suddenly going to get a huge and much larger payday than Fury, because of the facts. No matter what people repeat here that isn’t true.

You want to know why I insult this place often, read my last paragraph. You folks repeating nonsense has gotten worse and worse. Everyone in the industry recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. The world recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. But people on this site not only buy but repeat his nonsense over and over.

Just now you took one thing, turned it into another. Clearly accept that everything I said was true by not debating a word of it then act like I shifted the goalposts when I changed absolutely nothing about what I said ever. That’s BS. You wonder why I am annoyed with the current state of this place. Your crap post is a perfect example. Do better

You said nobody said eliminating one market makes more money. But people did say Fury vs AJ, Fury vs anyone in fact, is now the biggest fight. So either what you said is not true or you have some explaining because those things are mutually exclusive. So how can two contradictory things be true? Good luck explaining, I expect you to dodge

You giving up smoking Ron or is it time of the month? 🤔

I knew you would chime in with no facts because you’re one of the people saying the nonsense. Do you admit you said Fury brings the most money and thus prove that what he said in his initial post to me wasn’t true or do I have to go find you saying it?

[Batman]

UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights.

I do agree with this though, I think that the Brits are more inclined to pull an all nighter than the Yanks are to watch a full boxing card at 2pm, I don't think I'd get the same sort of buzz watching a full card at that time of day, plus it would clash with other sports, imagine how many viewers the boxing would lose if it clashed with the Premier League, even if it is only now and again.

[Beanz]

UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights.

I do agree with this though, I think that the Brits are more inclined to pull an all nighter than the Yanks are to watch a full boxing card at 2pm, I don't think I'd get the same sort of buzz watching a full card at that time of day, plus it would clash with other sports, imagine how many viewers the boxing would lose if it clashed with the Premier League, even if it is only now and again.

I agree the Brits are much more committed, hardcore boxing fans and not nearly so wishy washy, spoiled and half arsed as their transatlantic contemporaries.

[smashup]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

I’m not shifting the goalposts at all. This started from me people here saying Fury sold the fight with Wilder. People believing Eddies lies. Wilder has in fact and can be simply looked up brought great viewership in the USA. Fury has in fact not, he had his previous fight free fight available to all that brought less than 1/4 the viewership of Wilders previous fight that was only available to less than 15 million. To suggest the guy that doesn’t get the numbers suddenly got the numbers not the guy that always gets the numbers is preposterous. But it’s repeated here. There is a reason Wilder is suddenly going to get a huge and much larger payday than Fury, because of the facts. No matter what people repeat here that isn’t true.

You want to know why I insult this place often, read my last paragraph. You folks repeating nonsense has gotten worse and worse. Everyone in the industry recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. The world recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. But people on this site not only buy but repeat his nonsense over and over.

Just now you took one thing, turned it into another. Clearly accept that everything I said was true by not debating a word of it then act like I shifted the goalposts when I changed absolutely nothing about what I said ever. That’s BS. You wonder why I am annoyed with the current state of this place. Your crap post is a perfect example. Do better

You said nobody said eliminating one market makes more money. But people did say Fury vs AJ, Fury vs anyone in fact, is now the biggest fight. So either what you said is not true or you have some explaining because those things are mutually exclusive. So how can two contradictory things be true? Good luck explaining, I expect you to dodge

You giving up smoking Ron or is it time of the month? 🤔

I knew you would chime in with no facts because you’re one of the people saying the nonsense. Do you admit you said Fury brings the most money and thus prove that what he said in his initial post to me wasn’t true or do I have to go find you saying it?

I dont ever remember saying Fury brings the most money because he doesn't.
AJ is miles ahead of Fury and Wilder in terms of paydays.
Miles ahead.
If i did say that i was probably smashed on a weekend 😉
Shall we change your name to Mr Angry?
Chill out fella

[Kirkland Laing]

UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights.

I do agree with this though, I think that the Brits are more inclined to pull an all nighter than the Yanks are to watch a full boxing card at 2pm, I don't think I'd get the same sort of buzz watching a full card at that time of day, plus it would clash with other sports, imagine how many viewers the boxing would lose if it clashed with the Premier League, even if it is only now and again.

They're more likely to stay up and watch but that's hardcore fans. The British PPV money is down to attracting casual fans in UK primetime. Only a small fraction of potential PPV viewers in the UK are going to stay up till five am to watch a fight. So you're not getting both markets when the fight is in America. What's happening here is that Haymon is putting up a massive guarantee to Fury to keep the fight in America and to give Wilder as much advantage as he can get him. Haymon may make the money back, he may not.

[Ron Swanson]

Or thinking the biggest money fights cut out the American market. It’s nonsense haha

The money is in having BOTH markets. That is so f’n obvious. It sucks coming here and watching people tell each other fairy tales.

You all aren’t Eddie Hearn, be honest.

First things first Ron, no one forces you to come here, you choose to. I'm not quite sure why, I could hazard a guess, rank arrogance perhaps.

Secondly, no one at any point ever, not even once said the best way to make money was the cut off the American market, don't be so fucking dense.

The entire argument hinged on 'Would Joshua V Wilder make more money in the UK, or the US' That's what we were all debating right? With that in mind, answer the following, how much did Wilder and Fury earn (combined) then answer would AJ V Wilder in the UK have made more money.

When you're ready.

I appreciate your direct insult. It says much about you. Thanks for being so transparent for everyone.

To get to your attempt to spin. Yes, people have said the best way to get the most money is to cut out the American market when they say Fury vs AJ is the most profitable. Americans won’t buy that now. It may be the most profitable in the long run because if Fury Beats Wilder decisively they may buy the unification. That is both markets. But if they fought NOW Americans wouldn’t buy, 1 market, less money. So compare apples to apples. AJ vs Fury is not the biggest money maker NOW and those that suggested that are ignorant or dishonest. And it has been suggested so don’t try to say it hasn’t.

As for your question which is again apples vs oranges rather than apples vs apples, which by the way is a technique used by those attempting to deceive so again giving everyone more information about you, AJ vs Wilder in UK would have made more than Wilder vs Fury in USA. But Wilder would have made less because of the crap offer. Wilder and AJ both would have made most by fighting in the USA, BOTH markets. Don’t narrow options to make a point, that’s deceptive. Broaden it to extrapolate honest informative information. Oh, but honest information isn’t what you want apples to oranges. Looking at it broader you now see the rematch of Wilder vs Fury will make more than Eddie said even the bright star AJ vs Wilder would make in the UK. This is no fault of UK fans, they do their part. But US fans are picky. They want their fights when they want them. To get BOTH markets we all know it must be in the USA to be at the time USA fight fans watch fights. This is transparent apples to apples conversation. Try it. There is nothing arrogant about honesty.

Cheers

Transparent or honesty? Funny how they are interchangeable dependent on your position Ron. Go ahead and be insulted Ron, I think it's insulting for someone to constantly play the 'ughh this forum sucks' card but that's just me, I think I have more respect for this place than you do is all.

Cheers for the part in bold. that was an actual answer to the actual question posed to you. I don't care for all the other stuff about fruit. You can shift the goalposts and the time lines all you want, it changes nothing.

I’m not shifting the goalposts at all. This started from me people here saying Fury sold the fight with Wilder. People believing Eddies lies. Wilder has in fact and can be simply looked up brought great viewership in the USA. Fury has in fact not, he had his previous fight free fight available to all that brought less than 1/4 the viewership of Wilders previous fight that was only available to less than 15 million. To suggest the guy that doesn’t get the numbers suddenly got the numbers not the guy that always gets the numbers is preposterous. But it’s repeated here. There is a reason Wilder is suddenly going to get a huge and much larger payday than Fury, because of the facts. No matter what people repeat here that isn’t true.

You want to know why I insult this place often, read my last paragraph. You folks repeating nonsense has gotten worse and worse. Everyone in the industry recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. The world recognizes Eddie Hearn is FOS. But people on this site not only buy but repeat his nonsense over and over.

Just now you took one thing, turned it into another. Clearly accept that everything I said was true by not debating a word of it then act like I shifted the goalposts when I changed absolutely nothing about what I said ever. That’s BS. You wonder why I am annoyed with the current state of this place. Your crap post is a perfect example. Do better

You said nobody said eliminating one market makes more money. But people did say Fury vs AJ, Fury vs anyone in fact, is now the biggest fight. So either what you said is not true or you have some explaining because those things are mutually exclusive. So how can two contradictory things be true? Good luck explaining, I expect you to dodge

You giving up smoking Ron or is it time of the month? 🤔

I knew you would chime in with no facts because you’re one of the people saying the nonsense. Do you admit you said Fury brings the most money and thus prove that what he said in his initial post to me wasn’t true or do I have to go find you saying it?

I dont ever remember saying Fury brings the most money because he doesn't.
AJ is miles ahead of Fury and Wilder in terms of paydays.
Miles ahead.
If i did say that i was probably smashed on a weekend 😉
Shall we change your name to Mr Angry?
Chill out fella

We can relax. I’m comfortable with your response.