Colin Kaepernick and the absurdity of the NFL

[walrus]

@TitoFan here is a few companies that anti trumps are boycotting

Activists tried to block Donald Trump with their votes -- and now they’re trying to do it with their dollars.
In October, technology and media marketing specialist Shannon Coulter started the hashtag #GrabYourWallet, which encourages people to actively boycott businesses that carry Trump products. That hashtag underwent something of a revival this week, when users on Twitter began to circulate a continuously updating Google doc of businesses that do business with the Trump family, as well as their customer relations contacts.

“Our favorite stores, the stores that we are the loyal customers of, are profiting directly from a campaign that we consider to be hateful—that we consider to be on the backs of people of color, of women, and of LGBTQ people—and it’s not okay,” Coulter explained on MSNBC in October.

#GrabYourWallet encourages consumers to boycott businesses who endorsed Trump or currently work with his properties. It also includes mainstream media publications, like People, who have been accused of trying to normalize Trump and his candidacy.

While Ivanka Trump has brushed aside the boycotting campaign, it is seeing real impact. According to FastCompany and data sourced from ShopRunner, Ivanka Trump’s brand has seen a 54 percent drop in “interest,” or item views on select online retailers.



#GrabYourWallet is based in a Google Doc, and there are plans to build a website and an app around the list, according to Coulter’s comments in the #GrabYourWallet Facebook page.


Here’s an partial list of companies on the Google doc:


Companies with leaders that have endorsed Trump



Yuengling beer
NASCAR
MillerCoors
Jenny Craig
UFC
Hobby Lobby
New Balance


Some major companies that do business with Trump family

6pm.com
Amazon
Belk.com
Bloomingdale’s
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Burlington Coat Factory
Dillards
DSW
HSN
Hudson Bay
Lord & Taylor
Macy’s
Marshalls
Neiman Marcus
Nordstrom
Overstock.com
TJ Maxx
Zappos


It may prove impossible for people to successfully boycott all these companies -- but energy is high right now, and for many activists, anything is worth trying.

And tits this is an older list so many more have joined. Many of these companies already dropped any trump products. Ivan’s closed up her business. Let’s not forget hobby lobby and chix filet, and they pay workers a very decent wage.

[brocktonblockbust]

He's controversial but so what. Nothing about the ad itself is tasteless, offensive, or politicized, IMO.

On the face of it, it's ridiculous for Trump to be getting involved in who does what ads. Doesn't he have a country to run?

Oh I agree, there is nothing about the ad itself that is controversial. Other than who and why is in it.

bwaaaaHAHAHA exactly. Tito do you have any idea how NAUSEATING kapperkunt is in this society HERE? But he doesn't look so bad from a distance 😋😎

[El Kabong]

I hope some team rolls out the red carpet for Kaepernick. Let him play even if his girl is calling legends of a team signing him "Uncle Tom"

I DO want the guy to play why not? Manziel is playing in Canada and he's burned many a bridge too.

[TitoFan]

He's controversial but so what. Nothing about the ad itself is tasteless, offensive, or politicized, IMO.

On the face of it, it's ridiculous for Trump to be getting involved in who does what ads. Doesn't he have a country to run?

Oh I agree, there is nothing about the ad itself that is controversial. Other than who and why is in it.

Kaepernick was blackballed from the NFL, losing millions in potential salary. That in itself is punishment enough.

Now he does an ad for Nike and Trump and his followers have a fit?

You think Nike would've dared do an ad with any kind of implied message regarding Kaepernick's controversy?

I just see the whole uproar as ridiculous.

Tits Nike is not stupid. They did this precisely because of the implied message. Look at all the press they are getting. They knew they would turn off a segment of the population but excite they other. With the billions they spend on marketing everything is calculated. Like kabong pointed out they have been running sweat shops for years all over the world. Kaepernick is not a great player anyway. Not fit for even a second string who wants star money.

It doesn't matter. Nike is hardly the only major corporation with skeletons in its closet. Let's not demonize Nike while losing track of reality. But this isn't about defending Nike the company. This is about a simple TV ad which has only positive messages in it. Should the fact that Kaepernick appears in the ad matter? That in itself is an indictment on society. The fact that so much negativity can be spewed over a TV ad which attempts to carry a positive message. Look at it this way. Not everyone in the U.S. knows who Kaepernick is. Not everybody follows football or cares about the Kaepernick controversy. So for them to see that ad, and then read about the commotion it's caused, particularly from the President himself..... must be puzzling.

The fact that Brock calls Kaepernick "nauseating" is rather a positive thing as far as I'm concerned, judging from Brock's general view on things.

It doesn't matter whether Colin (Kaepernick's too long) is/was a good player or not. He's gone, courtesy of the NFL. They saw to that. Problem solved. The guy lost millions in potential income. So if a famous athletic wear brand wants to have him in a commercial of theirs, what is it to anybody else, particularly the frigging POTUS, who should be out there defending himself from the shit storms gathering around the White House, as well as running the country.

[El Kabong]

It doesn't matter. Nike is hardly the only major corporation with skeletons in its closet. Let's not demonize Nike while losing track of reality. But this isn't about defending Nike the company. This is about a simple TV ad which has only positive messages in it. Should the fact that Kaepernick appears in the ad matter? That in itself is an indictment on society. The fact that so much negativity can be spewed over a TV ad which attempts to carry a positive message. Look at it this way. Not everyone in the U.S. knows who Kaepernick is. Not everybody follows football or cares about the Kaepernick controversy. So for them to see that ad, and then read about the commotion it's caused, particularly from the President himself..... must be puzzling.

The fact that Brock calls Kaepernick "nauseating" is rather a positive thing as far as I'm concerned, judging from Brock's general view on things.

It doesn't matter whether Colin (Kaepernick's too long) is/was a good player or not. He's gone, courtesy of the NFL. They saw to that. Problem solved. The guy lost millions in potential income. So if a famous athletic wear brand wants to have him in a commercial of theirs, what is it to anybody else, particularly the frigging POTUS, who should be out there defending himself from the shit storms gathering around the White House, as well as running the country.

This is hardly the first time a player rightly or wrongly has claimed they've been blackballed from a league here are a few examples: Craig Hodges (NBA, ties to NOI & Farrakhan), Kerry Rhodes (NFL, because it's assumed that he's gay), Eric Reid (NFL, Anthem with Kaep), Ray Rice (NFL, domestic violence), Muhammad Ali (boxing, but only for a period of time), Connie Hawkins (NBA, gambling I believe), Rashad McCants (NBA, he's mentally unstable), Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (NBA, refusal to stand for the Anthem but he worked a deal with the NBA and then later had to go overseas to play)....and there's PLENTY of guys who could still play or perform who didn't get the opportunity for whatever reason like Steve Francis a great guard in the NBA who apparently has/had a huge drinking problem.


Blackballing Kaep makes him a martyr....I'm all for letting the guy play but at the same time his girl calling Ray Lewis an Uncle Tom when he was trying to get him signed up with the Ravens probably made him persona non grata with a lot of folks....who wants to extend a helping hand when you're going to get slammed with that tag? I'm not a huge Ray Lewis fan either, dude witnessed a murder and clammed up about it not a great look, but he was/is the face of the Ravens franchise...it would be like going to the Dodgers and calling Sandy Koufax an antisemetic slur or Jackie Robinson a racial slur...it's just not done by anyone who wants to have or keep a job.

[brocktonblockbust]

Like I said Colin Kaepernick should be arrested

[walrus]

He's controversial but so what. Nothing about the ad itself is tasteless, offensive, or politicized, IMO.

On the face of it, it's ridiculous for Trump to be getting involved in who does what ads. Doesn't he have a country to run?

Oh I agree, there is nothing about the ad itself that is controversial. Other than who and why is in it.

Kaepernick was blackballed from the NFL, losing millions in potential salary. That in itself is punishment enough.

Now he does an ad for Nike and Trump and his followers have a fit?

You think Nike would've dared do an ad with any kind of implied message regarding Kaepernick's controversy?

I just see the whole uproar as ridiculous.

Tits Nike is not stupid. They did this precisely because of the implied message. Look at all the press they are getting. They knew they would turn off a segment of the population but excite they other. With the billions they spend on marketing everything is calculated. Like kabong pointed out they have been running sweat shops for years all over the world. Kaepernick is not a great player anyway. Not fit for even a second string who wants star money.

It doesn't matter. Nike is hardly the only major corporation with skeletons in its closet. Let's not demonize Nike while losing track of reality. But this isn't about defending Nike the company. This is about a simple TV ad which has only positive messages in it. Should the fact that Kaepernick appears in the ad matter? That in itself is an indictment on society. The fact that so much negativity can be spewed over a TV ad which attempts to carry a positive message. Look at it this way. Not everyone in the U.S. knows who Kaepernick is. Not everybody follows football or cares about the Kaepernick controversy. So for them to see that ad, and then read about the commotion it's caused, particularly from the President himself..... must be puzzling.

The fact that Brock calls Kaepernick "nauseating" is rather a positive thing as far as I'm concerned, judging from Brock's general view on things.

It doesn't matter whether Colin (Kaepernick's too long) is/was a good player or not. He's gone, courtesy of the NFL. They saw to that. Problem solved. The guy lost millions in potential income. So if a famous athletic wear brand wants to have him in a commercial of theirs, what is it to anybody else, particularly the frigging POTUS, who should be out there defending himself from the shit storms gathering around the White House, as well as running the country.

U keep referring to a single commercial but not the two year deal. It must be obvious to Nike a large amount of sport fans don’t like Colin’s stance on certain things. The NFL has always been big on American flags, American military veterans and the blue angels flying over Super Bowls. Nike is a company, they can do what they want. If people don’t like what they did they can say it or boycott Nike if they choose. By the way I checked today and so far Nike stock was unchanged

[TitoFan]

Like I said Colin Kaepernick should be arrested

On what charge, genius?

[TitoFan]

He's controversial but so what. Nothing about the ad itself is tasteless, offensive, or politicized, IMO.

On the face of it, it's ridiculous for Trump to be getting involved in who does what ads. Doesn't he have a country to run?

Oh I agree, there is nothing about the ad itself that is controversial. Other than who and why is in it.

Kaepernick was blackballed from the NFL, losing millions in potential salary. That in itself is punishment enough.

Now he does an ad for Nike and Trump and his followers have a fit?

You think Nike would've dared do an ad with any kind of implied message regarding Kaepernick's controversy?

I just see the whole uproar as ridiculous.

Tits Nike is not stupid. They did this precisely because of the implied message. Look at all the press they are getting. They knew they would turn off a segment of the population but excite they other. With the billions they spend on marketing everything is calculated. Like kabong pointed out they have been running sweat shops for years all over the world. Kaepernick is not a great player anyway. Not fit for even a second string who wants star money.

It doesn't matter. Nike is hardly the only major corporation with skeletons in its closet. Let's not demonize Nike while losing track of reality. But this isn't about defending Nike the company. This is about a simple TV ad which has only positive messages in it. Should the fact that Kaepernick appears in the ad matter? That in itself is an indictment on society. The fact that so much negativity can be spewed over a TV ad which attempts to carry a positive message. Look at it this way. Not everyone in the U.S. knows who Kaepernick is. Not everybody follows football or cares about the Kaepernick controversy. So for them to see that ad, and then read about the commotion it's caused, particularly from the President himself..... must be puzzling.

The fact that Brock calls Kaepernick "nauseating" is rather a positive thing as far as I'm concerned, judging from Brock's general view on things.

It doesn't matter whether Colin (Kaepernick's too long) is/was a good player or not. He's gone, courtesy of the NFL. They saw to that. Problem solved. The guy lost millions in potential income. So if a famous athletic wear brand wants to have him in a commercial of theirs, what is it to anybody else, particularly the frigging POTUS, who should be out there defending himself from the shit storms gathering around the White House, as well as running the country.

U keep referring to a single commercial but not the two year deal. It must be obvious to Nike a large amount of sport fans don’t like Colin’s stance on certain things. The NFL has always been big on American flags, American military veterans and the blue angels flying over Super Bowls. Nike is a company, they can do what they want. If people don’t like what they did they can say it or boycott Nike if they choose. By the way I checked today and so far Nike stock was unchanged

Hopefully both Colin and Nike will make millions off this.

[Master]

Like I said Colin Kaepernick should be arrested

On what charge, genius?

He stood on one knee during the national anthem. Total crime in some people's eye's.

[X]

I don't know anything at all about American football. I'm aware of this guy and all the controversy about the national anthem (and wonder why a President is getting involved personally in this). However, I dint really have a well reasoned or knowledgeable viewpoint.

I do have a question, though .... is the guy very good at American football?

[Beanz]

I don't know anything at all about American football. I'm aware of this guy and all the controversy about the national anthem (and wonder why a President is getting involved personally in this). However, I dint really have a well reasoned or knowledgeable viewpoint.

I do have a question, though .... is the guy very good at American football?

No he has shin splints and prefers golf.

[El Kabong]

I don't know anything at all about American football. I'm aware of this guy and all the controversy about the national anthem (and wonder why a President is getting involved personally in this). However, I dint really have a well reasoned or knowledgeable viewpoint.

I do have a question, though .... is the guy very good at American football?

No he has shin splints and prefers golf.

Thanks Mr. "You don't live here!!!!!! you can't comment!!!! "




@X the President is involved because it USED to be that before a game (any game) would start the fans and players would all be reminded that regardless of what happens between the whistles, we're all Americans and this is just a game. Likewise a post match prayer (for those who practice/believe/or just want to join in a moment of thanks) typically takes place as well....kneeling is WELCOMED at that point.

[Master]

I don't know anything at all about American football. I'm aware of this guy and all the controversy about the national anthem (and wonder why a President is getting involved personally in this). However, I dint really have a well reasoned or knowledgeable viewpoint.

I do have a question, though .... is the guy very good at American football?

No he has shin splints and prefers golf.

Thanks Mr. "You don't live here!!!!!! you can't comment!!!! "




@X the President is involved because it USED to be that before a game (any game) would start the fans and players would all be reminded that regardless of what happens between the whistles, we're all Americans and this is just a game. Likewise a post match prayer (for those who practice/believe/or just want to join in a moment of thanks) typically takes place as well....kneeling is WELCOMED at that point.

So he kneeled too early.

[walrus]

Like I said Colin Kaepernick should be arrested

On what charge, genius?

He stood on one knee during the national anthem. Total crime in some people's eye's.

He is calling for #whitegenocide of course u like him