Today in Trump

[TitoFan]

Oh well carry on, then. But when they publish the Senators' reasons for voting the way they do, they should just drop the charade and not talk about personal or professional qualifications.

[brocktonblockbust]

Nobody cares with Brett Kavanaugh did when he was 17 years old. Nor should it matter at this point unless it was something like murder or rape.....

You know things that people should report a lot quicker than 24 hours later let alone 36 years later the week before their "attacker" is about to be placed on the Supreme Court

[TitoFan]

The dogged insistence from people wanting to see Kavanaugh voted in just reinforces how messed up the system has become. The old saying of "where there's smoke, there's fire" is almost always proven right.

Too many people are seeing this as another nauseating US vs THEM contest. Because Trump was the one who nominated him, people predictably line up in their assigned sides of the aisle.

Hopefully we're just trying to get the best man for the job in there.

IMO, Kavanaugh himself should have withdrawn, and save us all from this spectacle.

OK so we're just believing Dr. Ford regardless then? No evidence, no corroboration, no nothing, just a claim and that is 100% it?

The old saying of "where there's smoke, there's fire" is almost always proven right.

Allow me to rebut this by merely mentioning a name......Emmett Till....that is all


As for Kavanaugh withdrawing making things easier, saving us all from this spectacle....no sir, it would only embolden the Democrats who have become slightly more unhinged than before. They're doxxing Congressmen roughly a year after a gunman attempted to kill all of them at a baseball practice. Republicans are apparently no longer allowed to eat at restaurants either...there has just been a ricin attack as well...yes yes let's appease THAT group of people

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...id=mailsignout



Just making a point here that "unhinged-ness" isn't monopolized by Democrats.

[El Kabong]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...id=mailsignout



Just making a point here that "unhinged-ness" isn't monopolized by Democrats.

I didn't say that Democrats had the market cornered on crazy....but let's be real here Tito:

Republicans aren't harassing Democrats out of restaurants, Republicans (nor are Republican interns) aren't doxxing their Democrat Congressmen and women and also threatening to release the health information of their children oh yeah that just happened https://www.foxnews.com/politics/acc...ns-health-info, Republicans aren't shooting up Democrats (and it's not that they don't have the firearms to do so either), Republicans aren't confronting Senators getting on elevators trapping them in confined spaces, Republicans aren't going out and protesting ASKING to be arrested like Amy 'Joke Thief' Schumer.....but hey nice anecdotal find, 1 Republican arrested for THREATS not for doing something, for THREATENING to do something, wow....totally beats anything the Democrats have ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH.




Also as per soon to be Justice Kavanaugh....

#1 From the Wall Street Journal:

A friend of Christine Blasey Ford told FBI investigators that she felt pressured by Dr. Ford’s allies to revisit her initial statement that she knew nothing about an alleged sexual assault by a teenage Brett Kavanaugh, which she later updated to say that she believed but couldn’t corroborate Dr. Ford’s account, according to people familiar with the matter.

Leland Keyser, who Dr. Ford has said was present at the gathering where she was allegedly assaulted in the 1980s, told investigators that Monica McLean, a retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent and a friend of Dr. Ford’s, had urged her to clarify her statement, the people said.

The statement to the FBI offers a glimpse into how Dr. Ford’s allies were working behind the scenes to lobby old classmates to bolster their versions of the alleged incident, as were Judge Kavanaugh’s.


#2

‘please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following: (1) U.S. Senators or their staffs, PARTICULARLY THE OFFICES OF SENATORS FEINSTEIN AND HIRONO.’

Ruh Roh Raggy

[walrus]

Murkowski went no

[walrus]

Motion carried

[TitoFan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...id=mailsignout



Just making a point here that "unhinged-ness" isn't monopolized by Democrats.

I didn't say that Democrats had the market cornered on crazy....but let's be real here Tito:

Republicans aren't harassing Democrats out of restaurants, Republicans (nor are Republican interns) aren't doxxing their Democrat Congressmen and women and also threatening to release the health information of their children oh yeah that just happened https://www.foxnews.com/politics/acc...ns-health-info, Republicans aren't shooting up Democrats (and it's not that they don't have the firearms to do so either), Republicans aren't confronting Senators getting on elevators trapping them in confined spaces, Republicans aren't going out and protesting ASKING to be arrested like Amy 'Joke Thief' Schumer.....but hey nice anecdotal find, 1 Republican arrested for THREATS not for doing something, for THREATENING to do something, wow....totally beats anything the Democrats have ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH.




Also as per soon to be Justice Kavanaugh....

#1 From the Wall Street Journal:

A friend of Christine Blasey Ford told FBI investigators that she felt pressured by Dr. Ford’s allies to revisit her initial statement that she knew nothing about an alleged sexual assault by a teenage Brett Kavanaugh, which she later updated to say that she believed but couldn’t corroborate Dr. Ford’s account, according to people familiar with the matter.

Leland Keyser, who Dr. Ford has said was present at the gathering where she was allegedly assaulted in the 1980s, told investigators that Monica McLean, a retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent and a friend of Dr. Ford’s, had urged her to clarify her statement, the people said.

The statement to the FBI offers a glimpse into how Dr. Ford’s allies were working behind the scenes to lobby old classmates to bolster their versions of the alleged incident, as were Judge Kavanaugh’s.


#2

‘please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following: (1) U.S. Senators or their staffs, PARTICULARLY THE OFFICES OF SENATORS FEINSTEIN AND HIRONO.’

Ruh Roh Raggy

I won't win a battle of finding instances of unhinged Democrats vs unhinged Republicans. We both know that. I only made a point.

If your point is that Democrats are by and large unhinged and cannot civilly object to Kavanaugh's nomination for reasons that may be very valid to THEM..... then I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

Yes, there's a lot of hysteria out there against anything Trump. Promptly met by an equally hysterical pro-Trump base which is just as capable of unthinkable things and thoughts, just like the unhinged Democrats.

[TitoFan]

Why Kavanaugh and not Gorsuch, Lyle? If it's some kind of Democrat conspiracy against anything Trump, then why Brett and not Neil?

Maybe there's a reason I'm not aware of, and I mean that sincerely. If so, please tell me.

Why not start with the very first candidate? I mean, if we're going to make life impossible for Trump, let's start from the very beginning.

I know we're all pretty tired of these sexual accusations that are suddenly raining down on us from all sides.... all fields (celebrities, politicians, businessmen, etc). I know it's difficult to separate the real from the fabricated in cases like this.

But again I ask.... why now and why Kavanaugh?

Does this mean anybody Trump were to trot out there would meet with the same circus?

I'd like to think not.

I'd still appreciate these questions answered. Walrus said something about the midterms, but to me it doesn't explain why the Unhinged Democrats didn't start the fireworks with Trump's very first Supreme Court nomination.

It's an honest question. Is it something about Kavanaugh himself, that would drive the Unhinged Democrat machinery's gears turning and churning out all these drummed up charges and fake witnesses?

Were the Democrats asleep for Gorsuch?

[El Kabong]

I won't win a battle of finding instances of unhinged Democrats vs unhinged Republicans. We both know that. I only made a point.

If your point is that Democrats are by and large unhinged and cannot civilly object to Kavanaugh's nomination for reasons that may be very valid to THEM..... then I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

Yes, there's a lot of hysteria out there against anything Trump. Promptly met by an equally hysterical pro-Trump base which is just as capable of unthinkable things and thoughts, just like the unhinged Democrats.

All I'm saying is that as it stands right now....Democrats and Lefties are the most upset and they're acting out like a child being denied a candy bar from the store it's meltdowns and temper tantrums and overall really bratty childlike behavior on a large scale. It's gassed up by certain folks, the media and Soros....but yeah Republicans get upset when they lose elections too, but they rarely ever hold mass protests and they certainly don't attack the children of their opponents in attempts to blackmail them for voting against their constituents.

Both sides have crazy folks, but only one side is playing to the extreme and it ain't the Right

Why Kavanaugh and not Gorsuch, Lyle? If it's some kind of Democrat conspiracy against anything Trump, then why Brett and not Neil?

Maybe there's a reason I'm not aware of, and I mean that sincerely. If so, please tell me.

Why not start with the very first candidate? I mean, if we're going to make life impossible for Trump, let's start from the very beginning.

I know we're all pretty tired of these sexual accusations that are suddenly raining down on us from all sides.... all fields (celebrities, politicians, businessmen, etc). I know it's difficult to separate the real from the fabricated in cases like this.

But again I ask.... why now and why Kavanaugh?

Does this mean anybody Trump were to trot out there would meet with the same circus?

I'd like to think not.

I'd still appreciate these questions answered. Walrus said something about the midterms, but to me it doesn't explain why the Unhinged Democrats didn't start the fireworks with Trump's very first Supreme Court nomination.

It's an honest question. Is it something about Kavanaugh himself, that would drive the Unhinged Democrat machinery's gears turning and churning out all these drummed up charges and fake witnesses?

Were the Democrats asleep for Gorsuch?

Gorsuch was replacing Scalia so it was seen as a like for like swap, they didn't like that but it wasn't going to change much. Kavanaugh replacing Kennedy is seen as someone who is more of a traditionalist than someone who is wishy washy and blew with the political winds...THAT is why there's so much trouble and if you think it's bad now wait until RBG kicks the bucket, whew boy, batten down the hatches because that'll be a right shitshow if it's a Republican President that replaces her.

The Democrats are extremely fearful of losing ground in the SCOTUS so much so that Kirkland Laing has suggested they pack the courts next time they attain power "At some point they''re going to have to increase thenumber of SCOTUS justices to eleven or more so Kavanaugh will give them a graphic illustration of why they have to do it." ....5-4 with Kennedy as the swing vote was not comfortable for them, but it was enough to give them hope on certain issues....not anymore.

Why not start with the first candidate? Well I don't think #1 the Democrats thought Trump would stay in power for long as they sought to overturn the entire election and #2 again it was a like for like swap, they didn't expect Kennedy to retire as he did...that REALLY made them freak out.

Why now why Kavanaugh? It's a Hail Mary play man it's why they sat on the material they have had since July.

Pretty much anyone Trump places out there Democrats will immediately oppose I guess he COULD have attempted to "make peace" and nominated Merrick Garland, but let's be honest that's not why Trump was elected. Trump was elected to choose the Justices he said he'd choose, originalists not progressives.

The first nomination, maybe they were in denial, maybe they thought they'd oust Trump before he got a second one, maybe they figured it was a like for like swap and they were keeping their powder dry for when they needed it, I don't know what they were thinking, but they fucked up big time and let me tell you this whole Kavanaugh deal has the Republican base red hot to vote and that ain't good for Democrats not at all....I mean I guess we'll see with the mid terms how this all plays out. I don't think it'll be a clean sweep for the Republicans, but I know it won't be a clean sweep for the Dems.


Let me know if I didn't answer all your questions, those were good ones and i hope my answers are sufficient

[Master]

Is Trump protecting himself in the future should he be charged for something serious later down the line?

[El Kabong]

Is Trump protecting himself in the future should he be charged for something serious later down the line?

Well that's a good question to ask, I wouldn't put it past him trying to protect himself when you consider that Obama, Hillary, et al attempted to undo the 2016 election by sicking the FBI on Trump and attempting to entrap those working for Trump's campaign. I mean sure people are going to say "gee that's a bit out there El Kabong"....take a look at who worked on the Trump-Russia collusion case and who is now no longer employed by the FBI and then tell me it's a conspiracy


Yeah I'd be trying to protect myself if that happened to me...I'd also be trying to appease my constituents by picking a proper SCOTUS Justice because that is why the majority of them bothered to turn up and vote for him in the first place along with building the wall, moving the Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and getting the economy going again by doing those things he can campaign on "Promises Kept" and it not ring hollow in the ears (and hearts) of those who voted for him.

[Master]

Is Trump protecting himself in the future should he be charged for something serious later down the line?

Well that's a good question to ask, I wouldn't put it past him trying to protect himself when you consider that Obama, Hillary, et al attempted to undo the 2016 election by sicking the FBI on Trump and attempting to entrap those working for Trump's campaign. I mean sure people are going to say "gee that's a bit out there El Kabong"....take a look at who worked on the Trump-Russia collusion case and who is now no longer employed by the FBI and then tell me it's a conspiracy


Yeah I'd be trying to protect myself if that happened to me...I'd also be trying to appease my constituents by picking a proper SCOTUS Justice because that is why the majority of them bothered to turn up and vote for him in the first place along with building the wall, moving the Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and getting the economy going again by doing those things he can campaign on "Promises Kept" and it not ring hollow in the ears (and hearts) of those who voted for him.

That is not justification to rig the system in your favour especially if you are guilty. That is no better than what a dictator would do.

[walrus]

Is Trump protecting himself in the future should he be charged for something serious later down the line?

Well that's a good question to ask, I wouldn't put it past him trying to protect himself when you consider that Obama, Hillary, et al attempted to undo the 2016 election by sicking the FBI on Trump and attempting to entrap those working for Trump's campaign. I mean sure people are going to say "gee that's a bit out there El Kabong"....take a look at who worked on the Trump-Russia collusion case and who is now no longer employed by the FBI and then tell me it's a conspiracy


Yeah I'd be trying to protect myself if that happened to me...I'd also be trying to appease my constituents by picking a proper SCOTUS Justice because that is why the majority of them bothered to turn up and vote for him in the first place along with building the wall, moving the Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and getting the economy going again by doing those things he can campaign on "Promises Kept" and it not ring hollow in the ears (and hearts) of those who voted for him.

That is not justification to rig the system in your favour especially if you are guilty. That is no better than what a dictator would do.

How would he be rigging the system?

[brocktonblockbust]

It makes no sense. How could somebody read the system single-handedly? Name one step somebody could take single handily to rig a system

[walrus]

It makes no sense. How could somebody read the system single-handedly? Name one step somebody could take single handily to rig a system

Martial law, which is what he should do