Shady title wins & losses..minus the judges?

[Spicoli]

I started thinking about this after an earlier thread. We all know trinkets are "easily" won today or at least provided but how often are they easily lost in BS calls, rulings or stripping of belts? Not involving the judges as the forum has no need for a 1,000 page thread ...or guys vacating or stripped for not facing 'mandatory' but DQ's...rob jobs (see below).. or out right blown calls on cuts, fouls, corruption..I think the deck was stacked on Johnson the day he signed the contract



Starling v Molinares was a blown call...Duran v Buchanan arguably a golf shot to the nuts...Baldo beats Judah for trinket and Ibf ignored...John D Jackson stripped for 'not asking permission'

I'm not trying to legitimize trinkets here but we hear every weekend about judge robberies...how many have we seen where they don't even wait for the cards to take them Just random rambling here

[FinitoElDinamita]

Tszyu-Hatton .. rob job in Manchester. It was a set up

[p4pking]

Good thread, I'm sure if you go back far enough we could still make this 1,000 pages. First one that jumps to my mind was JC Chavez sr against Frankie Randall in the rematch, complete crock of shit. The ref actually rules the headbutt unintentional and then proceeds to take a point anyways, he probably somehow knew Chavez needed it on the cards or something. Not to mention it wasn't that bad a cut Chavez could have fought on, it was a clear fix imo.

[p4pking]

Shut up Finito.

[erics44]

sven ottke

[powerpuncher]

it wasnt a title fight, but was a title eliminator. when rocky juarez fought zahir raheem. the ref kept deducting points from raheem for no reason and threw him off his gameplan. at the end of the fight, raheem still clearly won the fight but the decision was given to juarez.

[Spicoli]

Good thread, I'm sure if you go back far enough we could still make this 1,000 pages. First one that jumps to my mind was JC Chavez sr against Frankie Randall in the rematch, complete crock of shit. The ref actually rules the headbutt unintentional and then proceeds to take a point anyways, he probably somehow knew Chavez needed it on the cards or something. Not to mention it wasn't that bad a cut Chavez could have fought on, it was a clear fix imo.

Thought about that one but they went to cards, Ive always thought Chavez 'opted out' of that one and Randall was royally screwed over. It reminded me of Honeyghan- Vaca 1 as Lloyd was docked, though fortunate for him he got an immediate rematch. They stripped him for some BS non 15 round title fight politics? Still think Randall was on his way to stopping Chavez in there!

[Kirkland Laing]

Chavez Taylor. The worst one ever.

[p4pking]

Guess so, but the point deduction on a clearly accidental butt is what gave Chavez the fight on the cards, and the cutt was nothing major at all. I wonder if Chavez didn't know the deal somehow as well, he couldn't have felt confident he was winning. He was the last guy you'd accuse of being a quitter, but the shoe fits perfectly in that one. Randall had his number, there's a reason they didn't have an instant rubber match to I suspect.

[Master]

Tyson was taking a severe beating against Douglas every round including where he knocked down Buster. Had he seen the final bell he would have got the shady decision.

I also think Hopkins was carrying Oscar because he wanted a rematch to make even more money.

[ykdadamaja]

Alexander vs. Bradley comes to mind. Fight shouldn't have been stopped. If there is one fighter I am praying gets beaten for about 9-9 rounds and then gets brutally stopped is Tim Bradley. Too many gift decisions and shady wins.

[El Kabong]

Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan

Don't get me wrong Roberto Duran is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time, but he won that title by stoppage due to one hell of a low blow. He was going to win on the cards but still it kind of tarnishes the win.

[JT Rock]

Not a title match but I haven't posted in years so I had to find a first post back haha!

Cintron VS Martinez The ref counted out Cintron on a knock down, clearly by a punch. Cintron cryed it was a headbutt. Nah he got his clock cleaned

[p4pking]

Oh yeah that was a disgrace! And then the cards were fixed to boot, Martinez got dicked around from all angles in that one good call.

[Britkid]

Rivers/Walgast:

I found the video: from 29:00