How to improve my shoulders

**Scrap** · 07-27-2006 11:48 PM

Feel If you dont use it , you loose it. remember a bird in the hand, will shit in your palm

**Von Milash** · 07-28-2006 12:07 AM

Scrap's been in the Smithwicks again....

**AdamGB** · 07-28-2006 02:48 AM

Did you know birds shit like crazy when they are scared? did you know when I went on holiday a bird got trapped between the window a the curtain... and shit every where...

Did you know if was even more scared when I picked it up? :P

**Scrap** · 07-28-2006 02:55 AM

SHIT

**Scrap** · 07-28-2006 03:18 AM

Talking about isolation Adam, you have a very good point.The body response to feel is Im sure not understood fully by people smell and feel are the bodys prime warning systems and as such have very good memory. That is why when training you should always give the body the correct responses, to what you are trying to acheive. There was a thing years ago called bit part whole, probably still about, I had a problem with it because of the memory thing. I beleive there are better ways of doing it, and having fun while trying.

**southpaw_outlaw** · 08-02-2006 02:03 AM

for real muscle strength without bulking up do max 5 reps of dumbells, various exercises, on very heavy weights, you should be hitting the wall at 5 max...you will develop strength without bulkin and losing handspeed..

**BoxingGorilla** · 08-07-2006 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by MichaelJA

haha gotcha. I know how you guys say speed and strength are what give you power but how would it work if you had a guy who can bench 300 lbs. and punch slow as a turtle, but another guy who cant bench much at all, but is so fast and speedy you can barely see his arms moving. If that were to happen, who would have the more power, meaning, if you gave the muscle guy one punch and the speedy guy say 5 or so. Which one would do more damage?

A man who can bench 300 pounds can still be fast. 300 pounds isn't a huge amount of weight. The difference between powerlifting and bodybuilding is great. The strong man will snatch you over his head and slam you into the dirt before you know what's happening.

You put gloves on and that's another story.

A true measure of strentgh is how much you can deadlift. It takes all the muscle groups to accomplish this. Remember you are only as strong as your back will allow you to be...

**BoxingGorilla** · 08-07-2006 02:31 AM

A good shoulder exercise is upright dumbell rows.

If you want more punching speed/power. I would reccomend more tricep work and lay off the biceps a bit. The biceps are for pulling the tricpes are for pushing.

**Dizaster** · 08-12-2006 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by southpaw_outlaw

for real muscle strength without bulking up do max 5 reps of dumbells, various exercises, on very heavy weights, you should be hitting the wall at 5 max...you will develop strength without bulkin and losing handspeed..

Doing low reps, i.e. 5-8 with very heavy weights is actually a great way to bulk up, if you eat a lot of protein.

I'm a fan of weight training with boxing, some aren't though.
I've found that finding a weight where you can do about 50 - 60 reps where you are getting sore by about the 20th rep helps you to develop strength that's really usable when you're arms start to feel like led weights after 3 to 4 rounds.. I guess you could technically consider this endurance training.. maybe strength indurance? <---- if their is such thing