Lenny Mclean v Roy Shaw, who actually won there fights?

[warreng]

for those who dont know of these 2 ,they were bare knuckle fighters,
ive read both there books and they both claim to have fought twice, but the outcomes are different in each book, Mclean claims the first fight was a draw and that he won the second while shaw claims he won the first and lost the second because he was not in shape and that mclean refused a 3rd fight- can any one clear this up for me?

[cockey cockney]

Lenny won them both IMO...i think you can find them on YouTube mate.

[warreng]

my pc is to sh*t to play them youtube things, id like to think lenny won them both as he came across as a nicer bloke after reading both books

[X]

They were not boxers, or even professional fighters.

Neither would go past 4 rounds with a half decent pro.

[Phil]

I thought they fought 3 times, Shaw winning the first but it wasn't recorded
then McClean won the next 2 by ko, ive those 2 on dvd, u can pick them up for about a fiver on ebay
the ones i got have loads of fights and the qualitys not bad either

[Tito BHB]

yeh they fought three bouts the first you wont find footage of but lenny did and roy will openly tell you that there was three, roy won the first by stoppage because roy was beating len silly with alot of un answered punches but couldnt knock him down, the second fight lenny knocked roy silly and punched him through the ropes , and the third was a knockdown fest where lenny tore roy apart and knocked him down and out twice!!
did anyone every see roy shaw-donny the bull adams? roy knocked him spark out and was in such a rage he picked him up under his arm (whilst he was dead weight) and done him again! beautiful

[porkypara]

They were not boxers, or even professional fighters.

Neither would go past 4 rounds with a half decent pro.

Roy Shaw was a pro boxer,MW I think.


Also Mclean lost 4 or 5 fights that he misses out telling you in his book.

[bleech1]

Lenny Mclean was great in Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels!!

[bleech1]

WHO'S THE GUV'NA??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDAmME-1JU

[bleech1]

Hmmmm...

A little different than pro boxing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDAmME-1JU

[leon9996]

yeh they fought three bouts the first you wont find footage of but lenny did and roy will openly tell you that there was three, roy won the first by stoppage because roy was beating len silly with alot of un answered punches but couldnt knock him down, the second fight lenny knocked roy silly and punched him through the ropes , and the third was a knockdown fest where lenny tore roy apart and knocked him down and out twice!!
did anyone every see roy shaw-donny the bull adams? roy knocked him spark out and was in such a rage he picked him up under his arm (whilst he was dead weight) and done him again! beautiful

ive got most of lennys fights off ebay so ive seen these fights,he was the first person frank warren ever promoted,but any half decent boxer he fought he got beat by,thats what frank warren said.he lost to cliff fields who was an ex-pro

[warreng]

They were not boxers, or even professional fighters.

Neither would go past 4 rounds with a half decent pro.

yes i know that thats why i said they where bare knuckle boxers, and if you must know roy shaw had 10 proffesional bouts winng them all with 6 kos, he actually beat ron stander who beat shavers

[CityOfGod]

The Guvnor -the best book ever?

[warreng]

The Guvnor -the best book ever?

well said, in my opinion no other book comes close, i read it in 2 days couldnt put it down, even my old dear liked it. an absolute superb read

[BIG H]

Roy shaw was a 5' 8 Middleweight and Lenny mcClean was about 6'4 and 20 stone, I have read many accounts about both men and bottom line they were both awesome bare knuckle fighters, but McClean's claims never to have lost are wrong, he was knocked out by Kevin Paddock and I believe Cliff Fields.

Fact is you wouldn't have wanted to meet either in a bare knucle fight

Roy Shaw's nephew posts on this site btw