This is simply listed starting with the most recent:
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones jr.
Pernell Whitaker
Julio Caesar Chavez
How would you rank them?
This is simply listed starting with the most recent:
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones jr.
Pernell Whitaker
Julio Caesar Chavez
How would you rank them?
1. Roy Jones
2. tie-Floyd Mayweather, Pernell Whitaker
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. JCC
first JCC wouldn't be on the list...but since he is here all run with it....Originally Posted by clean
1. PBF-his domination cannot be denied
2. RJJ-at 168 was the best ever at this weight and should have stayed here.
3. Sweet Pea- had unbelievable boxing ability..
4. B-HOP- had incredible longevity...won by style late-aggressiveness early. Awesome defense.
5. Fought alot of bums and handpicked opponents. Got wupped by Meldrick Taylor an amazing boxer who I thought outclasses JCC in every way....
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1. Roy Jones Jr... There'll never be another RJJ...
2. PBF - Total package, offense, defense, hand speed, PBF is incredible, its a shame so many people hate on him
3. Whittaker - Like floyd, lacked big punching power but had everything else. I never get tired of watching Sweet Pea
4. hopkins - his achievements and longevity in the boxing business speak for themselves.
5. JCC - Great fighter but IMO doesn't measure up to the other 4 guys listed.
David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King
Pernell was the best he didn't have the power but he could stand in front of a nest of hornets and not get stung .
Mayweather gets the decisions but he is a ballerina not really a fighter he has all the attributes just not the balls and the manly firebreathing Musk.
Ceasar Chavez was one of the most underated defensive fighters of all time he was one clever fighter not to mention a great fighter .
Hopkins doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Jones! its like comparing my Ford Mondeo R reg with its breaks shot to shit , busted steering rack , wheel bearing that needs replacing and every other thing that i cant be bothered to repair as i wait the obvious conclusion to our love affair, to a Ford Mondeo that needs none of the above and has had one carefull lady owner .
Hopkins is not all that he's a clver fighter a handfull but not a great fighter in anyones book .
1. Whitaker
2. Jones
Both had long stretches in their primes when they were unbeatable. Both were so fast that they never got hit in their primes, which made everyone wonder whether they had good chins or not. Late in their careers, they lost their speed and did get hit with big punches. Whitaker proved against Trinidad (the best puncher in the sport at the time) that he had a great chin. Jones, on the other hand, was KO'd by Tarver and Glen Johnson. That's the difference to me.
3. Hopkins
4. Chavez
I don't think you can rank Floyd, because he hasn't lost his skills yet, and he's still only 29, his career isn't near the end. If he's still undefeated at 34 or 35, then he's #1 on this list. If he loses in the next year or so, then he's no higher than 3rd or 4th, maybe lower.
1. RJJ - His career speaks for itself and his athletic ability was amazing
2. Pernell - Pure class, technical master and his ability to not only outbox you but 'beat' you.
3. Hopkins - The Hop what can you say in the later part of his career he became a throw back fighter, people have seem to forgotten what great KO's he had early in his career.
4. JCC - The man, the myth, the legend 'The Aztec Warrior', undefeated for 90 fights. A lot of people say he fought nobodies and all that but fail to point out that the chance of him loosing was still there. Arguello lost 3 times early in his career against what you people call 'bums', the man listed above B-Hop lost his debut. Another P4P 'Mantequilla' Napoles lost early in his career. He was a tough SOB and fought whomever, look at his record and his opponents and you can see that even past his best days he was game to get in there and tango with Tszyu & ODLH. I guess what I'm trying to say is he could have lost ANYONE of those fights but he didn't, Meldrick had him beat but the Warrior in him never gave up and he threw and threw punches until the bell rang. It took 'The Surgeon', IMO a less unexpected winner to beat JCC, people say JCC had an off night, they say moving up and down in weight and his problems with his wife. I don't think so Randall was just the better man that night.
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Julio Ceaser Chavez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I agree its too early to rate Flody Mayweather yet.
As for the others, I think it's clear that at his peak Roy Jones Jr was simply untouchable and would have beaten all of the others if such hypothetical matches across weight divisions could be made.
But overall Hopkins' ring acomplishments are probably just as impressive and possibly would have been more so had he gone on to fight and beat Maskaev to win the heavyweight crown.
Whitaker had style and class, JCC was a tough son of a bitch but I would go with
1. Roy Jones Jr
2. B Hop
3. Whitaker
4. JCC
I'm not trying to nitpick, because I agree with almost everything you said here, especially the stuff about how tough it is to be undefeated, no matter who your opponents are, because everyone has bad nights.Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
But let's be honest, Chavez did lose before Randall. Whitaker schooled him. There's no shame in that on Chavez's end, he lost to a great fighter in his prime who fought a great fight. But Chavez did get a total gift with that draw. He didn't win more than 3 or 4 rounds tops.
Thats a tricky one actaully...
1)RJJ
2)Whittaker
3)Hopkins
4)JCC
5)Mayweather.....
but thats as it stands but i think if Mayweather fights and beats Hatton, Cotto, DeLaHoya and Winky then he is definitely at the top of that list and one of the best ever.
TOO tricky..
RJJ has to be 1st becuase P4P he really did do damage, right across the board... Fighting at Heavy and winning like that was just honey!
But the others? I dunno? Hopkins probably languishes somewhere at the bottom (which obviously sounds harsher than it should).
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Right now in most peoples opinion its Floyd
b4 that it was Hopkins
b4 that it was Trinidad before his loss to Nard
Shane Mosley before the Forrest fights
Oscar DeLa Hoya in is prime
Barrera after the wins over Morales and Nas both undefeated superstars
Roy Jones Jnr In his supermiddle- light heavy days
DLH never once came close to even sniffing the top pound for pound spot.
I disagree with this. Mosley, Trinidad, and Barrera were all considered among the top fighters PFP, but they were never considered #1.Originally Posted by GAME
Jones was the clear #1 until he got KO'd by Tarver.
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