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    Default joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    yes i know tyson is in another one of my threads but people love to talk about tyson match ups so lets have it folks who wins holmes vs fraizer and holmes vs tyson

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    holmes outpoints frazier and tyson outpoints holmes IMO
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by orion2076 View Post
    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...
    Almost word for word what Id have said

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    Holmes UD Fraiser
    Tyson SD Holmes
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orion2076
    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...
    what are u talking about, prime tyson hardly ever got caught.....frazier was the one who took one to give one
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    Quote Originally Posted by orion2076
    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...
    what are u talking about, prime tyson hardly ever got caught.....frazier was the one who took one to give one
    prime tyson sure got caught with holmes jab like when he danced in 4th round he caught tyson with 5 jabs and that was old shot one imagine young holmes being able to dance for full 12 ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    prime tyson sure got caught with holmes jab like when he danced in 4th round he caught tyson with 5 jabs and that was old shot one imagine young holmes being able to dance for full 12 ??
    Thing is, I reckon Tyson was a little sloppy in that fight because he knew Holmes had nothing to hurt him, he knew hed walk through him and he did.

    A prime Holmes would get outworked but be able to make it messy like Smith did and hang on for a decision loss.

    Tyson was a machine when he was young, 15 hard rounds of sparring every day, no one does that, which is why Mike was quick the whole fight, he wouldnt have slowed, it would look like the Tucker and Green fights Holmes would have tired before Mike swinging and missing, he would have had to resort to holding like they all did.

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    Holmes is also a very bitter man, he wouldnt be very complimentary of any boxer, he is sore that Mike wiped the floor with him, Holmes was still a very capable boxer as his fights with Mecer and Holyfield later proved.

    He would have had ample time to train for the fight, there is no way that Mikes team back then would let Mike take a fighter like Holmes on short notice, they would have realised Holmes still had something and would have trained apropriately.

    All that short notice stuff is bullshiit propoganda from Holmes, deep down Larry knows Mike was something special, it would be good to put Larry on a lie detector and ask him if he would have beaten Mike in his own prime, I dont think hed be too sure, for all his talk Mike smashed him through the canvas and tore in to him and he knows he still had some fight in him to try and hold Mike off but it was nowhere near enough.

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    Quote Originally Posted by orion2076
    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...
    what are u talking about, prime tyson hardly ever got caught.....frazier was the one who took one to give one
    prime tyson sure got caught with holmes jab like when he danced in 4th round he caught tyson with 5 jabs and that was old shot one imagine young holmes being able to dance for full 12 ??
    yes if holmes could dance for 12 rounds which in his prime he could do then he would definatly land some shots on tyson but nothing big enough to rock tyson......i think tysons pressure and constant aggression would favour the judges.............holmes would have his hands full with both but i think he could edge out a points victory over frazier
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    Quote Originally Posted by orion2076
    Holmes wins both I think. Both tyson and frazier take a lot of punches b4 they get inside to inflict damage. Holmes with his super jab would keep them off balance most of the night. How good would it be ta see though...
    what are u talking about, prime tyson hardly ever got caught.....frazier was the one who took one to give one
    prime tyson sure got caught with holmes jab like when he danced in 4th round he caught tyson with 5 jabs and that was old shot one imagine young holmes being able to dance for full 12 ??
    yes if holmes could dance for 12 rounds which in his prime he could do then he would definatly land some shots on tyson but nothing big enough to rock tyson......i think tysons pressure and constant aggression would favour the judges.............holmes would have his hands full with both but i think he could edge out a points victory over frazier
    i doubt he would rock tyson i think he would just dance all night winning snoozefest of 12 round decision and i think tyson would drop holmes in 6th round but holmes would survive and win boring decision

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    i would have loved to see holmes vs foreman...........WOW ........i think holmes would have Knocked foremans a$$ out
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Default Re: joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

    Holmes UD's Frazier
    Tyson stops Holmes.....
    *gets ready for ICB to argue* lool

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Holmes UD's Frazier
    Tyson stops Holmes.....
    *gets ready for ICB to argue* lool
    nah its cool mate i dont argue just love good debate i disagree but dont matter how quick do you think tyson stops prime holmes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Holmes UD's Frazier
    Tyson stops Holmes.....
    *gets ready for ICB to argue* lool
    nah its cool mate i dont argue just love good debate i disagree but dont matter how quick do you think tyson stops prime holmes
    Yeah i know fella i was only joking! But very late tbh mate....Holmes is a tough nut for anyone, great chin in his prime aswell but i just see around the 10/11th mike landing bombs galore and the ref stepping in.

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