Just watching Hamed against Robinson............

[Memphis]

Theres nothing elite about Clinton Woods, other than his current ranking

Top three, ring magazine. I'd say thats elite enough.

[ICB]

Theres nothing elite about Clinton Woods, other than his current ranking

Top three, ring magazine. I'd say thats elite enough.

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[Trainer Monkey]

To be fair Ice,the guy did have 7 title defenses

[Violent Demise]

Iagree mate - I don't believe all this crap about him being all hype, I had the pleasure of going to watch the guy and he was amazing. He lost to an all time great - no shame in that - only shame is that he didn't have the sack to come back. He would've beaten any fighter out there except MAB and Morales

I think If he had stopped with Brenden Ingle and had he not got so cocky and trained rite i think he would of beat Barrera.

I don't Robinson wasn't that good and BIG H i know what you just said but imo Robinson was just a decent fighter he was never elite.

He was elite enough to be ranked third by Ring Magazine behind Kelley and Johnson Then Hamed came along and he dropped to tenth, still elite.

Here we go again. Seems like no British fighter is ever a bum or decent. There all elite, great fighters. I'm surprise you haven't started a campaign to get Robinson elected to the Hall of Fame. Robinson was a journeyman fighter who won the crappy vacant WBO title. He defended against no one worth mentioning. When he got in the ring against a good fighter (Hamed) he got his ass kicked. And you call him elite.

[Kev]

You know it's easy in the light of Hamed's defeat to Barrera to say that he was overratted and in that fight got shown up as being just a hype machine.

But I'm not buying that for a second.

Watching him at his confident, brash best it's simply unbelievable I've always felt his performance against Robinson was his greatest ever and it really was a clinic.

His reflexes were even faster than Roy Jones and floyd Mayweather imo.

Don't believe me? Go and watch for yourself.

This kid really had it all. Unfortunately his ego and arrogance became his downfall.

But man could he fight!

If his reflexes were as fast as Roy Jones as you put in this fight why is it in other fights he gets knocked down 3 times by Kelley wobbled bad by Ingle ?? maybe its because Robinson wasn't all that we was just decent thats it he was never elite.

Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather never fought with the reckless abandon that Naz did. His hand's were barely ever above his waistline. He relied purely and totally on reflexes and being able to bend like a limbo dancer.

They guy was basically an acrobat in the ring.

[Memphis]

Here we go again, VD not actually bothering the read the post.

Ring Magazine rated him as elite, top three is elite in anyones book.

Just to clarify, Im not Ring magizine.

[Kev]

Here we go again, VD not actually bothering the read the post.

Ring Magazine rated him as elite, top three is elite in anyones book.

Just to clarify, Im not Ring magizine.

Is this Hamed or Woods we are talking about?

[Violent Demise]

Here we go again, VD not actually bothering the read the post.

Ring Magazine rated him as elite, top three is elite in anyones book.

Just to clarify, Im not Ring magizine.

You said still elite. Anyway let's make this simple. Steve Robinson. According to you Memphis, not Ring magazine, not according to the WBO. According to you. Was he an elite fighter? Yes or no question

[Memphis]

Of course he was elite. He was easily one of the top five feathers at the time.

[Kel]

Great thread Bilbo. Hamed is responsible for getting me FULLY into boxing in the first place. He was always on the undercard on ITV's 'big fight live' and apart from his last fight he was always great to watch.

The Robinson fight was amazing. He had insane reflexes and balance at that stage in his career. When Steve finally snapped (after all the taunting Naz did) and went for Naz in that 15 odd second flurry I was totally on the edge of my seat in awe of it all. Talk about fighting off the back foot, AMAZING.

[Violent Demise]

Of course he was elite. He was easily one of the top five feathers at the time.

Sad part about that is I don't doubt you actually mean that. If Robinson was American or Mexican you would of said he was garbage (which he actually was). But since he was from the UK he was great. You should be stripped of your Mod duties for that.

[Memphis]

Now your overstepping the mark. Where a fighter comes from has no bearing on my rating of them, your a pathetic individual VD, dont judge others by your own standards.

[Kel]

Of course he was elite. He was easily one of the top five feathers at the time.

Sad part about that is I don't doubt you actually mean that. If Robinson was American or Mexican you would of said he was garbage (which he actually was). But since he was from the UK he was great. You should be stripped of your Mod duties for that.

You seem to do the exact same thing VD Just the other way around. You bash Brit boxers like theres no tomorrow

[CutMeMick]

And were off!!!!

[Majesty]

to the races