Who do you guys think will win? a baby or a cobra?

[Julius Rain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4-j...eature=related

[leftylee]

I watched this a while back and that kids parents must be fucking retarded, ask LEGION on the snake stuff he knows friggin everything but easily the Cobra.

[Julius Rain]

The cobra appear to have great accuracy when it strikes but at the end the baby seem to have pulled out a draw. As the baby pulled the cobras neck to choke it, the cobra countered by curling around the babys hands to try and restrict the hands of the baby.

[LEGION]

Well the cobra doesn't win for sure, as its mouth is sewed shut and the fangs are probably cut out, as is typical in that part of the world. People make money off tourists doing that, and that particular practice is banned in alot of the country, as it is inhumane..

But those people need money so practices like that will always go on. We were debating about that video on a reptile forum a few months ago. Funny, the little bit of money they might make will probably need to be used to take the baby to the doctor after handling that wild animal, with salmonella being a risk to handling reptiles from the wild, and also being that the animal was probably kept in a very moist, unclean basket. And not to mention the germs from the kid crawling around on the ground.

Idiots. I would have paid alot of money for that particular cobra, it is called a spectacled cobra{naja naja} and was one of the finest examples I've seen. Too bad actually.

[Julius Rain]

Well the cobra doesn't win for sure, as its mouth is sewed shut and the fangs are probably cut out, as is typical in that part of the world. People make money off tourists doing that, and that particular practice is banned in alot of the country, as it is inhumane..

But those people need money so practices like that will always go on. We were debating about that video on a reptile forum a few months ago. Funny, the little bit of money they might make will probably need to be used to take the baby to the doctor after handling that wild animal, with salmonella being a risk to handling reptiles from the wild, and also being that the animal was probably kept in a very moist, unclean basket. And not to mention the germs from the kid crawling around on the ground.

Idiots. I would have paid alot of money for that particular cobra, it is called a spectacled cobra{naja naja} and was one of the finest examples I've seen. Too bad actually.

Impressive bro, you really know your snakes. This is one of the craziest things I've seen, i just hope the parents know what their doing sending their baby out to play with deadly cobras.

for the info

[LEGION]

Well the cobra doesn't win for sure, as its mouth is sewed shut and the fangs are probably cut out, as is typical in that part of the world. People make money off tourists doing that, and that particular practice is banned in alot of the country, as it is inhumane..

But those people need money so practices like that will always go on. We were debating about that video on a reptile forum a few months ago. Funny, the little bit of money they might make will probably need to be used to take the baby to the doctor after handling that wild animal, with salmonella being a risk to handling reptiles from the wild, and also being that the animal was probably kept in a very moist, unclean basket. And not to mention the germs from the kid crawling around on the ground.

Idiots. I would have paid alot of money for that particular cobra, it is called a spectacled cobra{naja naja} and was one of the finest examples I've seen. Too bad actually.

Impressive bro, you really know your snakes. This is one of the craziest things I've seen, i just hope the parents know what their doing sending their baby out to play with deadly cobras.

for the info

CC #235 back to you Rain

Yeah, the parents know what they're doing, if they didn't that kid would be dead and the parents jailed or even executed for doing some sh#t like that with a "normal" cobra. Like I said, that snakes mouth is at the least sewed shut, and very likely the fangs are yanked out, which will kill the animal within a months time.
99.9% of the time a cobra will not strike you without 1st hooding up, which is a threat disply and telling you to back off. Though venom is easily and quickly renewed after a strike, cobras tend to know instinctually that it is wasting their resources to inject venom and would rather use the venom for prey. But make no mistake, if that one in the video had the ability to open its mouth, it would have flooded that kid several times with venom, and that would have been that!!
Here's a video of a guy in Thailand who did this trick one too many times and died last year if rumours be true. These snakes he used did not have their fangs yanked nor their mouths sewed shut. He had balls of steel to do this, but my understanding is that he took a hit from a King Cobra in the face, and that's as bad a place to take a hit from one, as the venom quickly gets to the nervous system and, well, lights out I don't do this sh#t with mine. RIP for that dude. At least he died doing what he wanted

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zzFxHr4t4mY

[Julius Rain]

that guy is crazy good.

by the way I just got me a moray eel

[Sugar_Shaw]

yo LEGION, out of interest, how do you know all that ?

[LEGION]

yo LEGION, out of interest, how do you know all that ?

I'm sorry, I don't understand? Know all what? I keep venomous snakes and they have been a passion of mine for a long time, so I have spent years studying them, and the different cultures where they come from. If you're asking how I know about the snake in the video being defanged and its mouth sewed shut; it's a well known common practice in India and Pakistan. And what fool would put their baby in front of a healthy cobra with all its tools intact?

Cobras in India are actually revered in some parts as Gods, so there are alot of festivals celebrating it. There are always poor people who need money and will capitalize on the tourists with the spectacle of snake charming and such. Sitting in front of the baskets, moving side to side and playing a flute, with the cobra coming out of the basket to the sound of the flute. What people don't understand is that snakes don't have ears, and don't hear a damn thing, and only stand up out of the basket because they are pissed off being stuck in the damn thing and hood up to threaten the people moving side to side with the flute. Cobras go by movement, not because they hear them playing that silly instrument. And like I said, most of those snakes are captured and immediately defanged or have their mouths sewed shut, so they can't bite the "performer". Very few do that thing without taking the weapons away from the snake 1st. The guy in the video above from Thailand felt he had some magical powers with the animals, and to some extent I guess you could say he did have some power over them, but eventually got buzzed for it and died. Sorry I rambled, just wanted to answer your question as best I could. You could always Google snake charmers and it will probably tell you the same thing.

[Sugar_Shaw]

yo LEGION, out of interest, how do you know all that ?

I'm sorry, I don't understand? Know all what? I keep venomous snakes and they have been a passion of mine for a long time, so I have spent years studying them, and the different cultures where they come from. If you're asking how I know about the snake in the video being defanged and its mouth sewed shut; it's a well known common practice in India and Pakistan. And what fool would put their baby in front of a healthy cobra with all its tools intact?

Cobras in India are actually revered in some parts as Gods, so there are alot of festivals celebrating it. There are always poor people who need money and will capitalize on the tourists with the spectacle of snake charming and such. Sitting in front of the baskets, moving side to side and playing a flute, with the cobra coming out of the basket to the sound of the flute. What people don't understand is that snakes don't have ears, and don't hear a damn thing, and only stand up out of the basket because they are pissed off being stuck in the damn thing and hood up to threaten the people moving side to side with the flute. Cobras go by movement, not because they hear them playing that silly instrument. And like I said, most of those snakes are captured and immediately defanged or have their mouths sewed shut, so they can't bite the "performer". Very few do that thing without taking the weapons away from the snake 1st. The guy in the video above from Thailand felt he had some magical powers with the animals, and to some extent I guess you could say he did have some power over them, but eventually got buzzed for it and died. Sorry I rambled, just wanted to answer your question as best I could. You could always Google snake charmers and it will probably tell you the same thing.

Wow, really interesting. You answered my question excellently by the way . Thank you for the information.

[Cortez The Killer]

Well the cobra doesn't win for sure, as its mouth is sewed shut and the fangs are probably cut out, as is typical in that part of the world. People make money off tourists doing that, and that particular practice is banned in alot of the country, as it is inhumane..

But those people need money so practices like that will always go on. We were debating about that video on a reptile forum a few months ago. Funny, the little bit of money they might make will probably need to be used to take the baby to the doctor after handling that wild animal, with salmonella being a risk to handling reptiles from the wild, and also being that the animal was probably kept in a very moist, unclean basket. And not to mention the germs from the kid crawling around on the ground.

Idiots. I would have paid alot of money for that particular cobra, it is called a spectacled cobra{naja naja} and was one of the finest examples I've seen. Too bad actually.

I hate when people do that S*** to animals. Like you said though, in poor parts of the world they are not concerned about such a thing because they are too busy trying to survive themselves by any means possible, cruelty to other living things is a non-factor in their mind.

Same goes for those dirt-poor farmers in brazil who are slashing and burning the rainforest down. They are destroying all of these resources, plants, animals, habitats...but they don't care because they are trying to feed their families by any means possible. It is hard to blame them, at the same time things are being destroyed which can never be replaced.

By the time humans establish a colony on Mars or wherever, the earth is going to be a wasteland with only a few species of insects surviving

[LEGION]

More people every year are killed in India and Sri Lanka by snakebite than anywhere else in the world; what with walking around barefooted while working in rice paddies or tea leaf fields, or just sleeping at night and having an Indian Krait crawl in bed with them and never wake up. The good thing is, at least from my viewpoint, is that alot of these groups that have been setting up big snake charming events are actually being used now to catch snakes and milk them for venom, so the venom can then be used to create antivenin for people who get bitten. And not just by cobras, but Russell's and Saw Scale vipers and Kraits.

So instead of these same people making a little extra on the side with inhumane acts, the government is setting up facilities for these people to bring in the snakes they catch so they can milk them. And the people get paid and once the animals are milked, they are released back into the wild. So everyone is happy{except for the snake for a few hours, but at least it doesn't get killed or tortured} And the people who get bitten, like so many do, will have the antivenin to keep them alive. And the more snakes that get killed, the less antivenin stocks there will be, so it is almost suicide to kill the same animals that will cure you, because you can't kill all the snakes, but it only takes one to bite you. Something like 30,000 die every year in India and Sri Lanka alone. Why? Because there isn't enough antivenin to cure people. Big dummies

Sorry, I love snakes and love talking about them.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I heard a story recently on National radio about a snake that was kept in a house in Ireland. Legion you may be able to validate it's authenticity. The story teller claimed this was 100% true.

A non-venomous snake (I presume a python but am unsure) was kept by a couple for a number of years. The enthusiasts were reasonably well experienced with snakes and were pretty comfortable with this snake.

They had a four/five year old child and he too was very fond of the snake and spent a large amount of time with the snake. The child fell ill and weak and as a result was house and bed bound Having had the snake for even longer than their child the parents were surprised one night to discover the snake had escaped and made foo the child's bed! Upon inspection and unknown to the child the snake had entered it's bed and appeared to be keeping the child warm as it stretched out beside the child. Upon first occurrence the parents were surprised but did not really react. Upon a second occurrence the parents, thinking they had somehow stumbled across a special "caring" reptile consulted a vet/specialist.
They explained their story of and claimed that it was obvious the snake had sensed their child was weak and as they spent so much time together it was trying to protect the child.

The Vet confirmed the snake had indeed sensed the child was very weak, but instead said the behaviour displayed was indicative that the snake was waiting for an opportunity to eat the child!

What is the likelihood of this story being accurate!!!

[Cortez The Killer]

I heard a story recently on National radio about a snake that was kept in a house in Ireland. Legion you may be able to validate it's authenticity. The story teller claimed this was 100% true.

A non-venomous snake (I presume a python but am unsure) was kept by a couple for a number of years. The enthusiasts were reasonably well experienced with snakes and were pretty comfortable with this snake.

They had a four/five year old child and he too was very fond of the snake and spent a large amount of time with the snake. The child fell ill and weak and as a result was house and bed bound Having had the snake for even longer than their child the parents were surprised one night to discover the snake had escaped and made foo the child's bed! Upon inspection and unknown to the child the snake had entered it's bed and appeared to be keeping the child warm as it stretched out beside the child. Upon first occurrence the parents were surprised but did not really react. Upon a second occurrence the parents, thinking they had somehow stumbled across a special "caring" reptile consulted a vet/specialist.
They explained their story of and claimed that it was obvious the snake had sensed their child was weak and as they spent so much time together it was trying to protect the child.

The Vet confirmed the snake had indeed sensed the child was very weak, but instead said the behaviour displayed was indicative that the snake was waiting for an opportunity to eat the child!

What is the likelihood of this story being accurate!!!

cc for the story, got a good laugh at the end!

[donnydarkoIRL]

It's funny, I've got a head for stories, when I hear a good one i just have to find out if it's true!