awful refereeing

[deliris]

i was very shocked to watch itvs coverage , the derry and choi fight in particular was sad, not shocked that he got a pasting but the referee involved was absolutely awful , he tried every which way he could to help him , im suprised there is not many other british viewers making this point , we cannot complain about americans and german referees when our own bunch are an absloute disgrace, i also saw a thread on which micky van is retiring and wether he should , omg thank god he is he is jsut as bad as the referee who helped derry , but well done choi nothing was going to stop him,

[CutMeMick]

I think Micky Vann does really good work.

You gotta love him for the work he did on the Katsidis-Earl fight. I mean he let those 2 go at it and throwing the towel out as Earl levels Kats was something amazing.

I've seen some good & bad refferring overtime here's some that I can think of:

Bad

- Frank Capuccino: For Hopkins vs. Hakkar, horrible performance by Frank whom I geniunely like but that was one night I'm sure he'd like to forget. He completely lost control of the fight. If memory serves me right Lamps & Big George were laughing and making jokes during this fight.

- Lawrence Cole: For JMM vs. Jaca, what the hell was he thinking telling JMM "You don't need to continue fighting your ahead on the judges scorecards" like Cole knew how the judges were scoring the fight. He did this after the 3rd headbutt that caused a cut on JMM forehead.


- Mitch Halper (RIP): For letting Liles vs. Littles II get out of hand that way. He should have deducted points from the get go. Then again the KO wouldn't have been as spectacular as it was wouldn't not have been for Littles tough guy act that he displaying that night.

- Both Jay Nady & Joe Cortez: For bad refferring and not deducting points for ilegal tactics. Nady in the RJJ vs. Ruiz fight for the multiple holding warnings and never doing anything about it. Cortez for PBF vs. Hatton again for multiple warnings and not doing anything about it.

[Fenster]

The ref was Dave Parris

And yes, had the fight been the other way round (Choi getting battered) I bet it would have been stopped after the first knockdown.

Also Derry must have broken Floyd Mayweather's record for turning his back.

[leftylee]

I still cannot get that phrase out of my head from Cotez on PBF-Hatton.

Cortez to Hatton: "When he (Mayweather) goes down don't hit him"

What a fuckin joke, Jay Nady is a shit ref too.

[:::PSL:::]

Lawrence Cole: For JMM vs. Jaca, what the hell was he thinking telling JMM "You don't need to continue fighting your ahead on the judges scorecards" like Cole knew how the judges were scoring the fight. He did this after the 3rd headbutt that caused a cut on JMM forehead.

Pacquiao slipped in first round against Barrera, and he ruled it as a KD.

Pacquiao scored a clean KD against Barrera and he ruled it as a slip.

Lawrence Cole is a moron. I heard he's still referreing in Texas because of his Dad.

[Lance Uppercut]

Bad


- Lawrence Cole: For JMM vs. Jaca, what the hell was he thinking telling JMM "You don't need to continue fighting your ahead on the judges scorecards" like Cole knew how the judges were scoring the fight. He did this after the 3rd headbutt that caused a cut on JMM forehead.

your absolutly right that he blew that call, but instantly after the fight Cole admitted his error, and has done a pretty good job since.


The best ref right now is without a doubt Steve Smogger. He lets fight reach their natural conclusion.

The best in my life time: Mills Lane

[Bukom Battler]

I have got to say Cortex refing against Hatton was shocking but only for the first 6 rounds.

I like it when he said to Hatton I am going to start deducting some points and either Hatton or Graham turned round and said "you already have". It was just comedy.

I think Cortez is generally a good ref but he did not start the Hatton fight well at all.

As for the ref in the Choi fight I though he was going crazy. He should have deucted a point for Matthews spitting out the gum shield. If not he should have let the fighters continue then put the gum shield in at the next break in action. There were a number of things against Choi so glad he prevailed.

[deliris]

so the referee was mr parris , incidentally he was the referee for hatton vs kotsa , i remmeber this fight as i bet against hatton and thought the ref was bias and letting hatton rough kotsa up more than to much, , but its funny how we then complain about hatton vs mayweather and how hatton was treated, which one was worse paris or cortez?

[Mar]

There are some good nights ref wise and then there are bad nights. Part of the game in any sport. We've all seen ref's affect an outcome tons of times hell it even happens sometimes in sports that have replay. But in a situation like the hatton fight no matter what happened people were gonna bitch. If anyone is to blame it's the worker who put that ringpost in hattons way (jus playin) but the ref wasn't the one who lunged in, threw wide punches, or low and behold just got beat by a better fighter (which too often is the real reason guys loose but the last reason people give for doing so).

[:::PSL:::]

I have got to say Cortex refing against Hatton was shocking but only for the first 6 rounds.

I like it when he said to Hatton I am going to start deducting some points and either Hatton or Graham turned round and said "you already have". It was just comedy.

I think Cortez is generally a good ref but he did not start the Hatton fight well at all.

As for the ref in the Choi fight I though he was going crazy. He should have deucted a point for Matthews spitting out the gum shield. If not he should have let the fighters continue then put the gum shield in at the next break in action. There were a number of things against Choi so glad he prevailed.

Cortez is alright with me. There are honest mistakes, and just plain rediculously refereeing. Other ref would've stopped the fight when Pac knocked JMM down for the third time in 1st round. Plus, he did a terrific job in last David Diaz's fight with the fallen mouth piece, and the loose tape on the glove.

Richard Steel created one of the most controversial call in Chavez-Taylor, but overall he's one of my favorite.

[CutMeMick]

The ref was Dave Parris

And yes, had the fight been the other way round (Choi getting battered) I bet it would have been stopped after the first knockdown.

Also Derry must have broken Floyd Mayweather's record for turning his back.

That was bad but as I've said I've seen some that are on par...

How about ref. Jorge Alonso he's had a couple of shitty nights the worst one was when he was the 3rd man for Campbell vs. Quiles...
Atlas was almost in tears urging them to stop the fight.
That was as wrong as Paris performace.

I still cannot get that phrase out of my head from Cotez on PBF-Hatton.
Cortez to Hatton: "When he (Mayweather) goes down don't hit him"
What a fuckin joke, Jay Nady is a shit ref too.

I agree Lefty....
I have respect for Cortez but he done fucked on that night.

Lawrence Cole: For JMM vs. Jaca, what the hell was he thinking telling JMM "You don't need to continue fighting your ahead on the judges scorecards" like Cole knew how the judges were scoring the fight. He did this after the 3rd headbutt that caused a cut on JMM forehead.

Pacquiao slipped in first round against Barrera, and he ruled it as a KD.
Pacquiao scored a clean KD against Barrera and he ruled it as a slip.
Lawrence Cole is a moron. I heard he's still referreing in Texas because of his Dad.

That was a bad night for Lawrence I know he's better and I've seen him work well.

Bad
- Lawrence Cole: For JMM vs. Jaca, what the hell was he thinking telling JMM "You don't need to continue fighting your ahead on the judges scorecards" like Cole knew how the judges were scoring the fight. He did this after the 3rd headbutt that caused a cut on JMM forehead.

your absolutly right that he blew that call, but instantly after the fight Cole admitted his error, and has done a pretty good job since.
The best ref right now is without a doubt Steve Smogger. He lets fight reach their natural conclusion.
The best in my life time: Mills Lane

I agree on Smoger, I also like Kenny Bayless and Raul Caiz Jr.

The best in my life time: Mills Lane

Even Mills has had his bad nights...
Anyone remember the long count in 1st knockdown for Nunn vs. Tate?
I gotta say it was least 12 to 13 seconds...

[yvonne]

i was very shocked to watch itvs coverage , the derry and choi fight in particular was sad, not shocked that he got a pasting but the referee involved was absolutely awful , he tried every which way he could to help him , im suprised there is not many other british viewers making this point , we cannot complain about americans and german referees when our own bunch are an absloute disgrace, i also saw a thread on which micky van is retiring and wether he should , omg thank god he is he is jsut as bad as the referee who helped derry , but well done choi nothing was going to stop him,

Your talking about Dave Paris refereering the Derry Mathews fight.You should Know your stuff before you open your mouth especially when you make totally crap gestures that Micky Vann is a total disgrace in refeering!Get your facts right.How many fights have been studying that have been staged over here in the U.K??It does'nt sound like you have much knowledge on the art of the fight game,nevermind the referee's trade!Your talking out of your

[Canvasback]

Arthur Mercante Sr. wasn't too shabby either.

[deliris]

well ok then you have given your opinion on me , how about your opinion on mr parris , or are you defending his awful refereeing lol, and yes i have seen micky van quite a bit and dont particulary think hes all that , although he is bias to the british fighter for sure , dont jsut have a go at me answer the question of wether the referee is bias and awful and totally a joker , the referee in question is mr paris, and i never said micky van was a total disgrace if you jsut read a little carefully. im saying we cant have a go at the likes of joe cortez if we have the likes of mr paris doing an even worse job.

[deliris]

and i think i should quickly correct myself as it appears it may seem i said micky van was a disgrace , if it appears so , i apologise hes not a disgrace but i dont think hes as good as people make out , pls retire mate for all the challengers who will fight british champions and have micky as a referee, im guessing i will have to go look for evidence of his not so great refereeing ro prove why i think hes not so great.