body building boxers

[iceman]

just curious, why do so many boxers that come here want 22 inch biceps and similar measurements for the rest of their muscles? do any of you think that the rest of the package should be dealt with? flexability, reaction speed, timing etc? big pretty muscles don't always help you punch harder and they definitely don't help you fight better....

[Youngblood]

just curious, why do so many boxers that come here want 22 inch biceps and similar measurements for the rest of their muscles? do any of you think that the rest of the package should be dealt with? flexability, reaction speed, timing etc? big pretty muscles don't always help you punch harder and they definitely don't help you fight better....

why would you assume this?

[Youngblood]

If you are referring to the 1-5 post people that come in and exit nearly as fast, then I don't think it really counts because I don't think they are boxers...they are generally youtube vid backyard heavybag smashers who are kinda clueless and looking for adoration from anonymous people over the internet.

Most of the people I see in here, the regulars, are concerned about the many aspects of boxing, and preparedness. Young or fairly new like me and hoping to learn from each other, and then those with much experience and years like the older vets selflessly sharing what they know etc...

Maybe I'm not sure I understood your post?

[Trainer Monkey]

Those really arent boxers,theyre dabblers who think cut=tough, most of the actual boxers here care about one thing,putting the other guy flat out.

[Outlaw Immortal]

just curious, why do so many boxers that come here want 22 inch biceps and similar measurements for the rest of their muscles? do any of you think that the rest of the package should be dealt with? flexability, reaction speed, timing etc? big pretty muscles don't always help you punch harder and they definitely don't help you fight better....

Firstly no boxer in the history of boxing has had 22 inch biceps...tysons were 17-17.5inch maximum cut.

Secondly, its good to be above average in size, but not to big, for example, i realised when i was lanky at like 83kg (im 6 foot 2 by the way), anyway i used to be fast, at boxing, i could throw 3 jabs in above average time, but i bulked up to 95kg over time, and i had a good body, but i was 10x slower. So its up to you, if you train you can maintain size and flexibiltiy, if u just do gym youll be a blob.

[ICB]

There not boxers simple as that.

[Outlaw Immortal]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

[ICB]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

[Salty]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

Well said, muscles can only take you so far in this game. Personally I love the way boxing makes me look, but I don't do boxing to have that 6 pack. I do boxing for boxing, whether that be punched in the face, spewing after a punchout drill or waking up and not being able to move the next morning. I think that's what differentiates a boxer and others, their desire for the sport and not the desire for admiration, a good body or fans.

[tyciol]

If you were wanting to put mass behind your hits wouldn't it make more sense to build it in the forearms instead of in the biceps? People rarely get hit in the biceps, but they get hit in the forearms all the time (with guard up) and that's the mass which is going to matter more for stuff like jabs which you don't put your full weight behind. Plus it helps to build more stable wrists for hitting with.

[Youngblood]

If you were wanting to put mass behind your hits wouldn't it make more sense to build it in the forearms instead of in the biceps? People rarely get hit in the biceps, but they get hit in the forearms all the time (with guard up) and that's the mass which is going to matter more for stuff like jabs which you don't put your full weight behind. Plus it helps to build more stable wrists for hitting with.

I think it is fair to say that most of us in here know the biceps aren't a muscle group most required for boxing, but is still needed to be worked for balance and mobility in accessing the triceps shoulders and lats and the whole power system as it moves our center of gravity from the feet upward to bring that powerful punch we seek to fruition. Form of course is what is truly going to create it, but having a physique ready to delivery that proper form is optimal I believe.

I agree with the forearm strengthening...and wrists and hands. Maybe not for the same reasons, but I can't think of a part of the body that couldn't use strengthening for boxing.

I wouldn't want to abandon biceps and end up disproportioned ...but also have no interest in having them be large and purdy...like about 3/4's of the people I know personally who lift for looks.

I do think it is important to know when is enough though, for building, and that personally is something I am looking at. For both age and growth and potential long term damage...plus just for a good balanced boxing physique.

[tyciol]

I agree, it's good to build it for balance and stuff, but by that same logic you would also want to train your lats/traps/rhomboids too, so I don't really see the point in doing isolation stuff like curls when you can train more muscles in a balanced fashion by doing chins/pulls/rows.

[AdamGB]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

More mass? What about nerve pathways, muscle synchronization and body make up? dead weight or slow twitch muscles (the bigger muscle cells that tend to develop during hypertrophy or 'mass' training) aren't gonna help much.

Sorry if I;m telling you how to suck eggs but there's a lot more to conditioning and physical performance than that.

[iceman]

sigh, the point was that big biceps aren't all that is needed.yes muscle is good, but there are other things to consider. remember the thread that would not die about trenabol or whatever that fun was? it won't help that much, and if you depend n it maybe you should not box...

[Trainer Monkey]

..why arent they boxers?, more mass you have = more force, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW HOW TO BOX.

If you take a hit, your muscles can absorb it rather than your bony ass ribs, thats why some boxers build muscle.

Im not saying its bad thing to build muscle i know all about building muscle mass, but boxers who want 22 inch biceps or anything to that extreme aren't boxers and aren't in the right sport. There punches would be so slow that you could go out for 5 mins and get a drink and comeback and still have time to avoid there punches. I do weights myself some Squats, Deadlifts, etc. But i wouldn't go to the extreme that i would want to look like the incredible hulk. Boxing is about having speed, heart, stamina, flexability, amongst a lot of other things, not how big your biceps are.

Im saying it is
Too much bulk,equals too much weight for your frame to carry and properly drive with, equals injuries a plenty, and crap for speed to boot