Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career"

[Majesty]

BOXINGTALK


Anyone have their 2 cents on this?

[ICB]

BOXINGTALK


Anyone have their 2 cents on this?

He wasn't overrated i don't think anyone went over the top regarding his skills and etc, we all knew he was a powerful puncher although not a 1 hit ko artist.

We all knew he could be hurt and comeback, we know he could outbox a good boxer in Jermain Taylor etc. I just think he was overhyped by his fans and the media.

The media are always looking for a great white hope, and Kelly Pavlik is a nice guy with an exciting style. So it was hard not to like him or respect him, and it was hard for the media to not get high on Kelly Pavlik aswell as us boxing fans.

As for not doing anything in his career i think thats BS aswell. He beat good contenders in Fulgencio Zungia, Jose Luis Zertche, aswell as Edison Miranda who was one the most feared fighters in the world at that time. Then beating the man who beat Bernard Hopkins x2.

I'll keep rooting for Kelly Pavlik he is genuine nice guy, with an exciting style i wish him well for the future.

[imp]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

[ICB]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

[leftylee]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Glen Johnson
Carl Froch

[Markusdarkus]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Glen Johnson
Carl Froch

LOL.

He was due to fight Johnson after he fought Shieka, Shieka won so Joe battered him in 3rds.

As for Froch you are kidding!! the guy is due to have his biggest fight against Jean Pascal.

Do one mate.

[zhubin]

Calzaghe calling another fighter overrated?! Now that's funny...coming from one of the MOST overrated fighters in history. If he only was fighting a prime Roy Jones...he would be exposed for the over hyped fighter he is.

[leftylee]

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Glen Johnson
Carl Froch

LOL.

He was due to fight Johnson after he fought Shieka, Shieka won so Joe battered him in 3rds.

As for Froch you are kidding!! the guy is due to have his biggest fight against Jean Pascal.

Do one mate.

Froch has been calling Calzaghe out for years. Yet Calzaghe avoids him for the great Contender bum Peter Manfredo Jr As for Johnson he's ducked him like 3 times.

[ono]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Glen Johnson
Carl Froch

Wouldn't exactly say they would be favourites if they were to fight Calzaghe at any point. I know he backed out of fighting Johnson a few times but still...

[Majesty]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Only name I can think of is Glen Johnson.

In terms of who Calzaghe's ducked it was people at Light Heavyweight only I'm guessing since there were no real super middleweight threats(at least in their prime) when Calzaghe was down there ruling.

The biggest names on his list are Lacy(who by now doesn't seem like a big win but hindsight is always 20-20) a debated victory against Hopkins and against a faded Chris Eubank.

Now people take credit away from Leonard for his questionable win against Hagler. But when it comes to Calzaghe people seem to give him a little more rope and I think a lot of hate stems from the double standards boxing fans like to use. But hey its boxing and its fans no one is ever consistant 100 percent with fighters they like and dislike, its just human nature.

[C-Lo]

I don't think Pavlik is overrated. What people say about him is true. He is a 1-2 puncher, he has good comeback ability, he doesn't quit, and he has power in his shots.

Overhyped, maybe, but Pavlik is a champion and is still young so his career is far from over.

Hopkins fought a perfect fight and had the perfect game plan and experience to have the performace against Pavlik he had.

Kelly is still young and definitely will learn from this experience. Hopkins, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Mosley, etc all have losses in their record but are still great fighters. Pavlik still has time...

[THE THIRD MAN]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

Mundine!

[The Fightfan]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

You find me one heavyweight Rocky Marciano ducked. HE beat everyone who was available. Ezzard Charles,Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, an older Joe Louis. Yes they may have been older but Rocky did not dodge anyone he fought everyone who was inline to fight for the championship. Genius Floyd Mayweather has ducked Margarito and Cotto for the last few years now. Even if he retire's undefeated until he fight's these two he has dodged them to me.

[ICB]

calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

You find me one heavyweight Rocky Marciano ducked. HE beat everyone who was available. Ezzard Charles,Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, an older Joe Louis. Yes they may have been older but Rocky did not dodge anyone he fought everyone who was inline to fight for the championship. Genius Floyd Mayweather has ducked Margarito and Cotto for the last few years now. Even if he retire's undefeated until he fight's these two he has dodged them to me.

Well im not sure about the timeline but wasn't Ingemar Johansson, Floyd Patterson, upcoming Heavyweights when Rocky Marciano just retired ? you could make an argument that he may of avoided them. But i can't see Rocky Marciano avoiding anyone to be honest he was a warrior.

[Mr140]

He was set fight Patterson but he lost and that was the end of it.