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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerharvey View Post
    Whos gunna be the first to mention Calzaghe and the thread gets turned into another "He has faught nothing but bums" lol.
    Good call! When it does happen, oh boy!

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    Joe Calzaghe
    HAHA! Was waiting for either you, bruno, or Dark Lord to come in here and say that. You won!

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac

    Had he met fighters in their prime he wouldnt be so well known
    Any possible chance to poke at him, you're right there. Gotta admire your consistency. Dealing with a Pac hater is just as hard as dealing with a Pac fan so you guys are made for each other.

    Just like the Calzaghe thing, wait til Saddoboxer gets in here and sees your post!
    . .. .yeah I hate Pac and his fans. So what ! You lot do my head in and none of you have a clue about the reality of boxing and the fact that theres more to boxing than just Pacquiao. I duno how you are gonna cope when he is gone

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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    I've always said that if the amount of money a fighter earns is any measure of his ability, then de la Hoya is overrated. But I guess there is more to the money thing than just what happens inside the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerharvey View Post
    Whos gunna be the first to mention Calzaghe and the thread gets turned into another "He has faught nothing but bums" lol.
    Good call! When it does happen, oh boy!



    HAHA! Was waiting for either you, bruno, or Dark Lord to come in here and say that. You won!

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac

    Had he met fighters in their prime he wouldnt be so well known
    Any possible chance to poke at him, you're right there. Gotta admire your consistency. Dealing with a Pac hater is just as hard as dealing with a Pac fan so you guys are made for each other.

    Just like the Calzaghe thing, wait til Saddoboxer gets in here and sees your post!
    . .. .yeah I hate Pac and his fans. So what ! You lot do my head in and none of you have a clue about the reality of boxing and the fact that theres more to boxing than just Pacquiao. I duno how you are gonna cope when he is gone
    When he's gone, you'll see a bunch of posters in here leave the forum. But there will always be another fighter who gets this type of following. I think Hatton and Calzaghe fanatics are just as worse as Pacquiao's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post

    Good call! When it does happen, oh boy!



    HAHA! Was waiting for either you, bruno, or Dark Lord to come in here and say that. You won!



    Any possible chance to poke at him, you're right there. Gotta admire your consistency. Dealing with a Pac hater is just as hard as dealing with a Pac fan so you guys are made for each other.

    Just like the Calzaghe thing, wait til Saddoboxer gets in here and sees your post!
    . .. .yeah I hate Pac and his fans. So what ! You lot do my head in and none of you have a clue about the reality of boxing and the fact that theres more to boxing than just Pacquiao. I duno how you are gonna cope when he is gone
    When he's gone, you'll see a bunch of posters in here leave the forum. But there will always be another fighter who gets this type of following. I think Hatton and Calzaghe fanatics are just as worse as Pacquiao's.
    I wouldnt know. I havent had to deal with any Calzaghe or Hatton fans. I think both boxers are good but Hatton fans may go over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post

    . .. .yeah I hate Pac and his fans. So what ! You lot do my head in and none of you have a clue about the reality of boxing and the fact that theres more to boxing than just Pacquiao. I duno how you are gonna cope when he is gone
    When he's gone, you'll see a bunch of posters in here leave the forum. But there will always be another fighter who gets this type of following. I think Hatton and Calzaghe fanatics are just as worse as Pacquiao's.
    I wouldnt know. I havent had to deal with any Calzaghe or Hatton fans. I think both boxers are good but Hatton fans may go over the top.
    I have and holy crap! Those are some crazy people. Calzaghe and Pacquiao fanatics are on the same level. If I'm a fan of Pacquiao and Pac huggers have the ability to make me go "WOW! Is this guys is serious!?" Calzaghe fans have made me say the same things as well.

    I haven't really had problems with Hatton fans. Just when they boo national anthems but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post

    When he's gone, you'll see a bunch of posters in here leave the forum. But there will always be another fighter who gets this type of following. I think Hatton and Calzaghe fanatics are just as worse as Pacquiao's.
    I wouldnt know. I havent had to deal with any Calzaghe or Hatton fans. I think both boxers are good but Hatton fans may go over the top.
    I have and holy crap! Those are some crazy people. Calzaghe and Pacquiao fanatics are on the same level. If I'm a fan of Pacquiao and Pac huggers have the ability to make me go "WOW! Is this guys is serious!?" Calzaghe fans have made me say the same things as well.

    I haven't really had problems with Hatton fans. Just when they boo national anthems but that's about it.
    Yeah theres no excuse for booing the national anthem . That just made the Brits look like scum and Hatton got a beating in that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post

    When he's gone, you'll see a bunch of posters in here leave the forum. But there will always be another fighter who gets this type of following. I think Hatton and Calzaghe fanatics are just as worse as Pacquiao's.
    I wouldnt know. I havent had to deal with any Calzaghe or Hatton fans. I think both boxers are good but Hatton fans may go over the top.
    I have and holy crap! Those are some crazy people. Calzaghe and Pacquiao fanatics are on the same level. If I'm a fan of Pacquiao and Pac huggers have the ability to make me go "WOW! Is this guys is serious!?" Calzaghe fans have made me say the same things as well.

    I haven't really had problems with Hatton fans. Just when they boo national anthems but that's about it.
    Hatton fans were unbelieveable before Mayweather

    then after that it kinda died down a bit.

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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac

    Had he met fighters in their prime he wouldnt be so well known
    Pac made Morales, Barrera, and Marquez look overrated. He's 5W 1L 1D with 3 KOs and 12 KDs combined against them. How could you call Pacquiao overrated? God I can't stand dumb people.


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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Christian Mijares

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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    De La Hoya. Whats all the hoopla about? This guy has not looked good in a long time.
    He has foughten the second most competitive fight with MAyweather of FLoyd's career though going by rounds it should have been a landslide. He also beat Forbes nearly every round who is a very accomplished pro, and he ko'ed Mayorga in a way nobody else has.

    As I look back, I am starting to think more and more Hagler was overrated. Most of his glory comes from beating natural ww's or even a lightweight in DUran's case, but his fight with Duran was very close, and he just had a better jaw then Hearns. Leonard made him look horrible whether he won or not. Besides that I don't consider his competition any stronger than Calzaghe's or Roy JOnes Jr's if not actually weaker. His most recognizable fae besides the other members of the fantastic four was Mugabi who imo turned out to be a joke against top level competition, Terry Norris KO'ed him, Gerland McClellan did as well in 1 round. All in all I think Hagler's career shows that back in the day a few good wins(not even good wins but fights against big name opponents) could consolidate your career where as now you need more than that.
    Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler wasn't that close, thats a myth. Check out this thread i already answered your questions above.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-better-2.html
    I've watched the fight plenty of times it was very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    He has foughten the second most competitive fight with MAyweather of FLoyd's career though going by rounds it should have been a landslide. He also beat Forbes nearly every round who is a very accomplished pro, and he ko'ed Mayorga in a way nobody else has.

    As I look back, I am starting to think more and more Hagler was overrated. Most of his glory comes from beating natural ww's or even a lightweight in DUran's case, but his fight with Duran was very close, and he just had a better jaw then Hearns. Leonard made him look horrible whether he won or not. Besides that I don't consider his competition any stronger than Calzaghe's or Roy JOnes Jr's if not actually weaker. His most recognizable fae besides the other members of the fantastic four was Mugabi who imo turned out to be a joke against top level competition, Terry Norris KO'ed him, Gerland McClellan did as well in 1 round. All in all I think Hagler's career shows that back in the day a few good wins(not even good wins but fights against big name opponents) could consolidate your career where as now you need more than that.
    Roberto Duran vs Marvin Hagler wasn't that close, thats a myth. Check out this thread i already answered your questions above.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-better-2.html
    I've watched the fight plenty of times it was very close.
    I thought Marvin Hagler clearly won by atleast 3 or 4 rounds, Roberto Duran faded badly down the stretch and Marvin Hagler built up a good lead based on that.
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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Here are fighters whom I feel get a wee bit too much rating from people.

    Riddick Bowe:
    I've read things like "Bowe at his best/prime he'd beat Ali" or he'd beat Lennox.
    I mean really how long was Bowes prime?
    1 fight....

    Aaron Pryor:
    Such a short career, whos premier wins came over 2 fighters who were past their best days. Plus this whole "SRL ran from him" has become a line used to try and glorify him. SRL wasn't the only top fighter around so to me it doesn't mean much.

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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Quote Originally Posted by James_Teja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac

    Had he met fighters in their prime he wouldnt be so well known
    Pac made Morales, Barrera, and Marquez look overrated. He's 5W 1L 1D with 3 KOs and 12 KDs combined against them. How could you call Pacquiao overrated? God I can't stand dumb people.

    I would hardly say he made those three look overrated. He just had Barrera's number. Morales fought a perfect game plan in the first fight and beat him. The second Morales fight was competitive the whole way Pac just wore him out. The third fight was the most dominating of all the fight against the three.

    Marquez vs Pacquiao could've gone either way each time so I don't think one had dominance over the other.

    Either way. I get what you mean on your last two sentences.

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    Default Re: Most overrated boxer

    Quote Originally Posted by James_Teja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac

    Had he met fighters in their prime he wouldnt be so well known
    Pac made Morales, Barrera, and Marquez look overrated. He's 5W 1L 1D with 3 KOs and 12 KDs combined against them. How could you call Pacquiao overrated? God I can't stand dumb people.

    bless, he even knows the combined knock downs.

    Personally I'd have to say vargas and more Mayorga. More and more, especially with Mayorga they've just became names for people to look good beating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Here are fighters whom I feel get a wee bit too much rating from people.

    Riddick Bowe: Damn straight!!! Have always felt the same way.
    I've read things like "Bowe at his best/prime he'd beat Ali" or he'd beat Lennox.
    I mean really how long was Bowes prime?
    1 fight....

    Aaron Pryor: Well... his list of victims is not exactly a who's who of boxing. But those classic wins over Alexis Arguello were, well... classic.
    Such a short career, whos premier wins came over 2 fighters who were past their best days. Plus this whole "SRL ran from him" has become a line used to try and glorify him. SRL wasn't the only top fighter around so to me it doesn't mean much.
    Good names. See my comments above.

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