Arthur Abraham

[Rantcatrat]

I didn't see the fight. From what I've read he won on decision.

Did he look impressive in victory? Obviously, Lajuan was incredibly was handpicked, but was still undefeated.

[JazMerkin]

Watching it now. Simon has shown a lot of heart from what I've seen of the fight so far. I have to say Abraham does look like maybe he is drained at the weight now. I certainly don't think Simon is any worse than Rubio, IMO probably better, and he's significantly better than Gary Lockett.

This may be AA's last fight at 160

[palmerq]

I watched this one live, Arthur looked pretty good and pretty bad :S, he was hitting the guy with big shots but every so often he'd take a whack in the face back and if I remember right he was in trouble around the 8th and 9th round. I think he looked pretty tired, he had Simon close to being knocked out but he'd stop and I think he grabbed hold of him . I had abraham as a clear winner on the score card but it was quite a close fight sort of.

The commentators were saying he was having big problems making weight though, this would make sense, I thought he was pretty comfortable untill he looked tired, although I don't have great memory.

[JohnnyKickAss]

Apparently Abraham had to cook off 20 pounds in the last 2 weeks before the fight...Abraham needs a clear diet plan or he can't stay at middleweight...Simon showed alot of heart and had a great chin...

[Master]

Abraham is dead at the weight, he fights in short spurts and looks awful. He should move up or take on Pavlik now. He will get beat soon, even against Strum on last nights performance.

[Deanrw]

Abraham is dead at the weight, he fights in short spurts and looks awful. He should move up or take on Pavlik now. He will get beat soon, even against Strum on last nights performance.

Abraham has always fought in spurts. He did the same at 166 against Miranda and before that against Ayala and so on. He has always paced himself in fights strangely to attempt a rally late in a round.

I don't think moving up to 168 is going to help him a much. He has always has stamina issues I believe.

[Rantcatrat]

I watched this one live, Arthur looked pretty good and pretty bad :S, he was hitting the guy with big shots but every so often he'd take a whack in the face back and if I remember right he was in trouble around the 8th and 9th round. I think he looked pretty tired, he had Simon close to being knocked out but he'd stop and I think he grabbed hold of him . I had abraham as a clear winner on the score card but it was quite a close fight sort of.

And this was against a very mediocre opponent. Does his performance make you think better or worse of him?

[TheDemolitionDan]

I wanted to watch this fight, but couldn't find any link to it, but from what I've been hearing Abraham was weight drained. Not a good sign, and if he is weight drained he better go up to Super Middleweight. And Super Middleweight isn't a bad place to go because there is not much up there and Abraham should have no trouble being the king at that division.

[JazMerkin]

I wanted to watch this fight, but couldn't find any link to it, but from what I've been hearing Abraham was weight drained. Not a good sign, and if he is weight drained he better go up to Super Middleweight. And Super Middleweight isn't a bad place to go because there is not much up there and Abraham should have no trouble being the king at that division.

Are you serious? SMW is a much more stacked division than MW, you've got Kessler, Bute, Jermain Taylor, Librado Andrade, all good exciting fighters. Plus most of those would be better money for Abraham than pretty much anything at MW, plus there's always other fights like Carl Froch who would be good money & could be done in Europe. Honestly you take away Pavlik, and otherwise 160 is dead, especially compared with the fights at 168.

[TheDemolitionDan]

I wanted to watch this fight, but couldn't find any link to it, but from what I've been hearing Abraham was weight drained. Not a good sign, and if he is weight drained he better go up to Super Middleweight. And Super Middleweight isn't a bad place to go because there is not much up there and Abraham should have no trouble being the king at that division.

Are you serious? SMW is a much more stacked division than MW, you've got Kessler, Bute, Jermain Taylor, Librado Andrade, all good exciting fighters. Plus most of those would be better money for Abraham than pretty much anything at MW, plus there's always other fights like Carl Froch who would be good money & could be done in Europe. Honestly you take away Pavlik, and otherwise 160 is dead, especially compared with the fights at 168.

Well, you have Kessler he is a beast. I'm skeptical about Bute, yea he has a good record and he has shown fantasic boxing skills, but he has just been up fighting in Canada where he is in his comfort zone. Andrade is good, but both of his big fights he has lost (of course he should have won against Bute, but that's a mute point now.) I'm still unsure of Taylor he's going to have something to prove against Froch who is a good boxer in his own right, but he has been fighting taxi cab drivers up in his comfort zone, like Bute.

[holmcall]

I wanted to watch this fight, but couldn't find any link to it, but from what I've been hearing Abraham was weight drained. Not a good sign, and if he is weight drained he better go up to Super Middleweight. And Super Middleweight isn't a bad place to go because there is not much up there and Abraham should have no trouble being the king at that division.

Are you serious? SMW is a much more stacked division than MW, you've got Kessler, Bute, Jermain Taylor, Librado Andrade, all good exciting fighters. Plus most of those would be better money for Abraham than pretty much anything at MW, plus there's always other fights like Carl Froch who would be good money & could be done in Europe. Honestly you take away Pavlik, and otherwise 160 is dead, especially compared with the fights at 168.

Well, you have Kessler he is a beast. I'm skeptical about Bute, yea he has a good record and he has shown fantasic boxing skills, but he has just been up fighting in Canada where he is in his comfort zone. Andrade is good, but both of his big fights he has lost (of course he should have won against Bute, but that's a mute point now.) I'm still unsure of Taylor he's going to have something to prove against Froch who is a good boxer in his own right, but he has been fighting taxi cab drivers up in his comfort zone, like Bute.

Great exchange of posts here, lads. Almost like a real bout.

[Memphis]

Abraham is lucky Simon couldnt break an egg, would have almost certainly been sparked out.

[JazMerkin]

I wanted to watch this fight, but couldn't find any link to it, but from what I've been hearing Abraham was weight drained. Not a good sign, and if he is weight drained he better go up to Super Middleweight. And Super Middleweight isn't a bad place to go because there is not much up there and Abraham should have no trouble being the king at that division.

Are you serious? SMW is a much more stacked division than MW, you've got Kessler, Bute, Jermain Taylor, Librado Andrade, all good exciting fighters. Plus most of those would be better money for Abraham than pretty much anything at MW, plus there's always other fights like Carl Froch who would be good money & could be done in Europe. Honestly you take away Pavlik, and otherwise 160 is dead, especially compared with the fights at 168.

Well, you have Kessler he is a beast. I'm skeptical about Bute, yea he has a good record and he has shown fantasic boxing skills, but he has just been up fighting in Canada where he is in his comfort zone. Andrade is good, but both of his big fights he has lost (of course he should have won against Bute, but that's a mute point now.) I'm still unsure of Taylor he's going to have something to prove against Froch who is a good boxer in his own right, but he has been fighting taxi cab drivers up in his comfort zone, like Bute.

I agree with that to a point, but my main question is what is there at Middleweight other than Pavlik? I don't see anyone worth the time. Kessler I agree is a beast, and I too am skeptical about Bute although his fantastic skills, he needs to have a rematch with Andrade. On him, whilst he clearly lost to Kessler, that was pre-Calzaghe, when Kessler looked one of the toughest fighters about, and he took so many shots yet still didn't go down. I also felt he beat Bute, if not for Marlon B. Wrong, and think he is improving, and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the Margarito of this division sometime this year or next. I mean that in terms of his status in the division not in terms of possibly trying to put on plaster of paris. I agree with Taylor & Froch, but what all those names tell you is there's a lot more goin on at SMW, especially when you factor in fringe guys like Sakio Bika & Allan Green, as well as guys like Ward & Dirrell coming up through the ranks.