Boxing, MAB, and Broken Hearts

**holmcall** · 03-15-2009 05:53 PM

Never Fall in Love With a Fighter. If you do, he'll break your heart just about every time.

Joe Louis did it against Marciano in 1951

Muhammad Ali did it when he fought Holmes in 1980

Matthew Saad Muhammad (1992): Watching him get KOd by Jason Waller in his last tiff was not pleasant, partuclularly when you consider that Waller finished with a grim mark of 28 (KO 19) - 34 (KO 22)-4.

Leonard and Duran (1997-99) against Camacho and Joppy,respectively, were gut wrenching to witness.

Mike Tyson (2004-5) After Lewis KOd him in 2002, "Iron Mike" redeemed himself to some extent with a spectacular icing of Clifford "The Black Rhino" Etienne in just seconds. However, that set him up for his big fall when he was taken out viciously by Danny Williams in just four rounds. Hulking Kevin McBride then put a finisher on the gut wrenching process when Mike inceredibly quit on his stool in D.C.

Julio Cesar Chavez (2000-5) seeing him getting dismantled by Kostya Tszyu was brutal, but seeing him lose to limited Grover Wiley five years later was even worse

Oscar De La Hoya was recently subjected to a Pac-Man mugging and it was a sad shocker to his many fans.

Now, it's Marco Antonio Barrera’s turn to break hearts as he loses to a much younger fighter in an all-too-familiar scenario.

But isn't that what generally occurs when you get too close to a fighter?

**JazMerkin** · 03-15-2009 06:07 PM

Aaaargggghhhhh.... MY EYEES!

I'm guessin that's not what you had planned holmcall

That's better.

**Andre** · 03-15-2009 07:04 PM

The king is dead / long live the king.
Thats always been the cry of the noble art of boxing.
Manny who put all their eggs in the one basket and only talk up and follow one fighter all have it comming harder than others who follow the whole sport

. n whoops.

**holmcall** · 03-15-2009 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Aaaargggghhhhh.... MY EYEES!

I'm guessin that's not what you had planned holmcall

That's better.

Sorry about that mix up

**eagle** · 03-16-2009 04:03 AM

RJJ v Calzaghe was hard to watch. I just hope he dont get taken out by Sheika!
Holyfield is hard to watch too.
The last few fights Morales had didnt do him justice.
I remember being gutted when Jeff Fenech got KO'd by feather fisted Grove.

The list is almost endless in boxing!

**Tilt A Whirl** · 03-16-2009 04:07 AM

This is why I dont give Mayweather S for walking out on top

**eagle** · 03-16-2009 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

This is why I dont give Mayweather S for walking out on top

Guys like him, Tszyu, maybe Calzaghe, Lewis, and even Hamed are smart to retire before they get hurt bad. No good having loads of money if your brain is mush.

**Tilt A Whirl** · 03-16-2009 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by eagle

Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

This is why I dont give Mayweather S for walking out on top

Guys like him, Tszyu, maybe Calzaghe, Lewis, and even Hamed are smart to retire before they get hurt bad. No good having loads of money if your brain is mush.

If you keep sticking around,there's allways going to be another,"Well you didnt fight........."
Its relatively well documented here that me and the Mayweathers arent exactly pals,but I had no problem with Floyd Jr. cashing in his chips while he still had brains to count them. I wish Hopkins would do it himself.
Sooner or later,age and somebody really good would happen,and then fans would be saying,"See,I told you he wasnt that good"

**GAME** · 03-16-2009 06:17 AM

Everyone keeps saying this is a legit loss but it was a headbutt that caused the stoppage and last time I checked headbutts werent legal so I dont count this as a loss rather an unfortunate circumstance. Had it been the other way round and Khan couldnt see I think it would have been a different fight

Anyone who disagrees, try boxing with your eyes closed and then try boxing with your eyes open . You wil see that the luxury of vision makes a world of difference to your performance.

**JazMerkin** · 03-16-2009 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by eagle

Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

This is why I dont give Mayweather S for walking out on top

Guys like him, Tszyu, maybe Calzaghe, Lewis, and even Hamed are smart to retire before they get hurt bad. No good having loads of money if your brain is mush.

Agreed, it always pisses me off when I see people calling a fighter a fag or biitch for retirin, I think they're almost always guys who've never been in a ring. All those guys mentioned made enough money & did what they had to do in the sport whilst still being able to retire on a positive. I always really admired Tszyu for calling it a day that night. I don't believe he was actually 'shot', more that he realized it was the beginning of the end & should get out whilst he was still all there.

Its always painful when you look at the guys who fought on too long. Guys like Ray Leonard are a rarity, and when you compare how he sounds to Tommy Hearns, you really see the difference of those extra years still fighting.

**holmcall** · 03-16-2009 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by GAME

Everyone keeps saying this is a legit loss but it was a headbutt that caused the stoppage and last time I checked headbutts werent legal so I dont count this as a loss rather an unfortunate circumstance. Had it been the other way round and Khan couldnt see I think it would have been a different fight

Anyone who disagrees, try boxing with your eyes closed and then try boxing with your eyes open . You wil see that the luxury of vision makes a world of difference to your performance.

The thing is, two years from now it will look like a righteous win on Amir's record. That's the way it works. A win is a win is a win, and the longer time goes on, the greater that"win " becomes."

**JonnyFolds** · 03-16-2009 12:27 PM

Any1 feel those shots Corrales was taking against Josh Clottey?? Man that was a hard fight to watch. Corrales had abotu 1/5 of the power on the hooks he was giving to Clottey. Sure hope they let Clottey fight Marg again!