Power and Frank Bruno

[Dark Lord Al]

I am very interested in your views guys and gals.
Frank Bruno's punches used to blow away lesser opposition , with ease , so when he reached world class did his power become less affective due to the fact he wasn't a world class puncher ?

My theory is Bruno telegraphed his punches and lacked sharpness , which made his power less effective , someone like Tyson was all about speed and power combined.

Bruno at an early age blew British fighters away , but someone like prospect Tyson Fury , is a combination puncher. Frank could hit , but my question to you guys is how hard did he hit ?

Please give us your theories and compare Bruno's power to the following.
Please rank all of the following's power from 1 - 10 and put them in order.
Frazier.
Tyson.
Foreman.
Wlad.
Viltali.
Liston.
Lennox Lewis.
Frank Bruno.
Riddick Bowe.
Evander Holyfield.

Many thanks.

[BIG H]

Good thread, I'll post my numbers in a min

[BIG H]

Good thread, I'll post my numbers in a min

Foreman 9
Viltali 9
Frazier 8
Tyson 8
Lennox Lewis 8
Wlad 8
Liston 8
Riddick Bowe 8
Frank Bruno 8
Evander Holyfield 6

[Fenster]

His punching power didn't diminish. Higher class fighters have better skills -defense, offense, chin, bottle etc.. so naturally it is far harder to win.

Not sure about the 1-to-10 order. I am sure a clump off any would hurt. Badly.

[Dark Lord Al]

His punching power didn't diminish. Higher class fighters have better skills -defense, offense, chin, bottle etc.. so naturally it is far harder to win.

Not sure about the 1-to-10 order. I am sure a clump off any would hurt. Badly.

Yes i also think they could anticipate his shots due to his lack of sharpness , and nullify them.

[eleven]

ad say forman would be the hardest puncher out of that lot

[Dark Lord Al]

ad say forman would be the hardest puncher out of that lot

The thread is for comparison not just to pick 1 and i presume your mean Foreman ?

[Phil]

I am very interested in your views guys and gals.
Frank Bruno's punches used to blow away lesser opposition , with ease , so when he reached world class did his power become less affective due to the fact he wasn't a world class puncher ?

My theory is Bruno telegraphed his punches and lacked sharpness , which made his power less effective , someone like Tyson was all about speed and power combined.

Bruno at an early age blew British fighters away , but someone like prospect Tyson Fury , is a combination puncher. Frank could hit , but my question to you guys is how hard did he hit ?

Please give us your theories and compare Bruno's power to the following.
Please rank all of the following's power from 1 - 10 and put them in order.







ok on 1 punch power ill try give it a go

Frazier. 8
Tyson. 8
Foreman. 9
Wlad. 9
Viltali. 9
Liston. 8
Lennox Lewis. 8
Frank Bruno. 8
Riddick Bowe. 7
Evander Holyfield. 6


might decide to adjust it a little

see above

[ICB]

I am very interested in your views guys and gals.
Frank Bruno's punches used to blow away lesser opposition , with ease , so when he reached world class did his power become less affective due to the fact he wasn't a world class puncher ?

My theory is Bruno telegraphed his punches and lacked sharpness , which made his power less effective , someone like Tyson was all about speed and power combined.

Bruno at an early age blew British fighters away , but someone like prospect Tyson Fury , is a combination puncher. Frank could hit , but my question to you guys is how hard did he hit ?

Please give us your theories and compare Bruno's power to the following.
Please rank all of the following's power from 1 - 10 and put them in order.
Frazier.
Tyson.
Foreman.
Wlad.
Viltali.
Liston.
Lennox Lewis.
Frank Bruno.
Riddick Bowe.
Evander Holyfield.

Many thanks.

I think Frank Bruno lacked a real killer instinct thats what let him down, he had fighters like Tim Witherspoon, James Smith, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, all hurt yet he never really pressed the advantage he had.

And also to be fair to Frank Bruno the fighters he lost to Mike Tyson x2, Lennox Lewis, James Smith, Tim Witherspoon, at there best have known to be pretty durable.

Frazier. 8
Tyson. 8
Foreman. 10
Wlad. 8
Viltali. 8
Liston. 8
Lennox Lewis. 8
Frank Bruno. 8
Riddick Bowe. 7
Evander Holyfield. 6

[El Kabong]

OK, I have a two pronged approach when calculating punching power #1 Is the weight of the punch how hard it lands #2 Is the speed of the punch as we all know Weight + Velocity = Momentum and for this conversation the Momentum will = Power.

Weight of the punch
1. Foreman
2. Lewis
3. Frazier
4. Tyson
5. Vitali
6. Wladimir
7. Bruno
8. Liston
9. Bowe
10. Holyfield

Speed of the punch
1. Tyson
2. Frazier
3. Wladimir
4. Lewis
5. Vitali
6. Holyfield
7. Bruno
8. Bowe
9. Liston
10. Foreman

Frazier. = 7.5
Tyson. = 7.5
Foreman. = 5.5
Wlad. = 7
Viltali. = 5
Liston. = 1.5
Lennox Lewis. = 7
Frank Bruno. = 3
Riddick Bowe. = 1.5
Evander Holyfield. = 2

That is out of 10 and specifically judging these 10 fighters' power against one another. So the order I have them together based on my calculations which I just made up at this moment without knowledge of what the order would be are:

1. Tyson & Frazier - 7.5/10
3. Lewis & Wlad - 7/10
5. Foreman - 5.5/10
6. Vitali - 5/10
7. Bruno - 3/10
8. Holyfield -2/10
9. Bowe & Liston 1.5/10

So there you have it folks...seems ok to me, I mean obviously I think Big George is the most devistating puncher of all time but speed does enter the equation at some point and he had "heavy hands". I wouldn't want to get punched by any of those guys.

[Kirkland Laing]

my calculations

[Hulk]

OK, I have a two pronged approach when calculating punching power #1 Is the weight of the punch how hard it lands #2 Is the speed of the punch as we all know Weight + Velocity = Momentum and for this conversation the Momentum will = Power.

Weight of the punch
1. Foreman
2. Lewis
3. Frazier
4. Tyson
5. Vitali
6. Wladimir
7. Bruno
8. Liston
9. Bowe
10. Holyfield

Speed of the punch
1. Tyson
2. Frazier
3. Wladimir
4. Lewis
5. Vitali
6. Holyfield
7. Bruno
8. Bowe
9. Liston
10. Foreman

Frazier. = 7.5
Tyson. = 7.5
Foreman. = 5.5
Wlad. = 7
Viltali. = 5
Liston. = 1.5
Lennox Lewis. = 7
Frank Bruno. = 3
Riddick Bowe. = 1.5
Evander Holyfield. = 2

That is out of 10 and specifically judging these 10 fighters' power against one another. So the order I have them together based on my calculations which I just made up at this moment without knowledge of what the order would be are:

1. Tyson & Frazier - 7.5/10
3. Lewis & Wlad - 7/10
5. Foreman - 5.5/10
6. Vitali - 5/10
7. Bruno - 3/10
8. Holyfield -2/10
9. Bowe & Liston 1.5/10

So there you have it folks...seems ok to me, I mean obviously I think Big George is the most devistating puncher of all time but speed does enter the equation at some point and he had "heavy hands". I wouldn't want to get punched by any of those guys.

If you have Sonny Liston, and Riddick Bowe with 1.5/10 and Wladimr Klitschko with a 7/10, well I'd say your system is a bit flawed. And dare I say it...BIAS.

lol

[Phil]

I think Vitali really has a case that he his hardest of all time.
I mean 36ko's in 37 wins, I think any fighter in history would be
doing well to equal that , even if they were to fight his
exact opponents,
for example if Fraiser or Lewis had fought all his opponents wouls they
have as high a ko raste? Im not to sure...

[BIG H]

I think Vitali really has a case that he his hardest of all time.
I mean 36ko's in 37 wins, I think any fighter in history would be
doing well to equal that , even if they were to fight his
exact opponents,
for example if Fraiser or Lewis had fought all his opponents wouls they
have as high a ko raste? Im not to sure...

I don't think he has stopped anybody that most of the others on that list wouldn't have stopped. Stopping nearly all of your opponents doesn't always tell the full story... i.e
LaMar Clark

[ICB]

I think Vitali really has a case that he his hardest of all time.
I mean 36ko's in 37 wins, I think any fighter in history would be
doing well to equal that , even if they were to fight his
exact opponents,
for example if Fraiser or Lewis had fought all his opponents wouls they
have as high a ko raste? Im not to sure...

Mac Foster had a 100 percent KO record, that doesn't mean he's the hardest hitting Heavyweight of all time. Although he had a few good KO wins over some goodish Heavyweights.

Who has Vitali Klitschko stopped really ? the best opponent he has stopped is arguably Corrie Sanders. Who doesn't even take boxing seriously, and Vitali Klitschko hit him with everything but the kitchen sink, but couldn't KO him.

Joe Frazier maybe a bit small too stop some of the Heavyweights of the modern era, but Lennox Lewis ? i would bet my house on him stopping the likes of Kirk Johnson, Danny Williams, Corrie Sanders, Larry Donald, Samuel Peter, any day of the week.

Vitali Klitschko is seriously overrated on here sure he's a good boxer with a good chin, but he's only known because he gave an out of shape Lennox Lewis a tough fight. But he still couldn't beat him, hell Hasim Rahman atleast stopped an out of shape Lennox Lewis. So what does that say about Vitali Klitschko's power ? or Vitali Klitschko himself ?