Juan Manuel Marquez vs Freddie Norwood, No way Juan Manuel Marquez Lost.

[ICB]

I watched this years ago and all i remembered about it, was that it was a very ugly close fight. And my memory was correct about the ugliness but i forgot somethings.

First off JMM was robbed of 2 knockdowns in his fight, i had no idea what the hell Joe Cortez was doing, and he clearly let Freddie Norwood recover for a few seconds.

All Freddie Norwood did was run and try the occasional left hand, this wasn't that close IMO. JMM clearly won the later rounds and he had atleast won by a few points.

And had the other knockdown been scored. It would of been an even clearer winner, i mean one judge had Freddie Norwood winning 8 rounds what the hell ?

[leftylee]

I haven't watched the fight (Got a link ?) But no surprises Joe Cortez was a twat even many years ago.

[ICB]

I haven't watched the fight (Got a link ?) But no surprises Joe Cortez was a twat even many years ago.

Sent you a link but be warned its an ugly fight, and just try and concentrate on it as much as you can scoring wise.

[leftylee]

I haven't watched the fight (Got a link ?) But no surprises Joe Cortez was a twat even many years ago.

Sent you a link but be warned its an ugly fight, and just try and concentrate on it as much as you can scoring wise.

Cool thanks I'll watch it tomorrow and let you know.

[jdonaher1]

Marquez lost his chance to complain about this decision becasue he fought so timid. Pretty much the complete opposite of how he fights now. I did think he won this fight but your correct, it was a crappy fight. 2 counter-punchers never make for a great fight.

[ICB]

Marquez lost his chance to complain about this decision becasue he fought so timid. Pretty much the complete opposite of how he fights now. I did think he won this fight but your correct, it was a crappy fight. 2 counter-punchers never make for a great fight.

But to be fair Freddie Norwood did try and avoid a fight, as much as possible. Im not saying JMM was fighting like a man possessed either, but atleast he tried to make the fight by coming forward. And JMM was seriously hard done by, with the knockdown IMO.

By the way welcome to the forum.

[The Wind]

I watched this years ago and all i remembered about it, was that it was a very ugly close fight. And my memory was correct about the ugliness but i forgot somethings.

First off JMM was robbed of 2 knockdowns in his fight, i had no idea what the hell Joe Cortez was doing, and he clearly let Freddie Norwood recover for a few seconds.

All Freddie Norwood did was run and try the occasional left hand, this wasn't that close IMO. JMM clearly won the later rounds and he had atleast won by a few points.

And had the other knockdown been scored. It would of been an even clearer winner, i mean one judge had Freddie Norwood winning 8 rounds what the hell ?

ICB, I think we are about to agree on something, I agree totally robbed, if my memory serves me right this was JMM's first big fight in terms of exposure etc and he was robbed, it was a foul filled fight that put JMM's career back a few years.

Cortez and Jay Nady need to retire, they are now bordering on incompetant!!

[Gonzo13]

Clear robbery. JMM should have gotten an UD over Norwood.