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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Hatton for sure

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.
    Same as Barerra and JCC then
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    very close but i think vargas,hatton spent to much time fighting nobodys for the wbu tittle

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Hatton. Although I think if Vargas' career had been managed better, I'd be saying Vargas.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.
    Same as Barerra and JCC then
    Yea but to be fair MAB started boxing at 15 didn't he ? and 28 of his fights were when he was under 20.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Since Vargas needed steroids to help him get humiliated by De La Hoya it seems only fair that I choose Hatton.

    Vargas also took a beating from Mayorga.



    Hatton has still only lost to two P4P numero unos...

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Got to go with Vargas, in his losses he show'd he was good enough
    to be in the ring with world class opponents and gave them one of there
    toughest fights, anyone think Floyd or Pac would have Hatton down as one of there toughest fights...

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    I will say Vargas, eventhough he really screwed himself by ruining his style/falling in love with his punching power. Had he been more of a boxer/puncher instead of a brawler he would have lasted longer.

    Ricky Hatton other than fighting a Prime Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao had a HUGE drop off in talent...old Kostya Tszyu was good and all but other than that it was just run of the mill guys, no one special. Vargas fought: De la Hoya, Trinidad, and Mosley but the others he fought and beat: Castillejo, Quartey, Winky Wright are very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I will say Vargas, eventhough he really screwed himself by ruining his style/falling in love with his punching power. Had he been more of a boxer/puncher instead of a brawler he would have lasted longer.

    Ricky Hatton other than fighting a Prime Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao had a HUGE drop off in talent...old Kostya Tszyu was good and all but other than that it was just run of the mill guys, no one special. Vargas fought: De la Hoya, Trinidad, and Mosley but the others he fought and beat: Castillejo, Quartey, Winky Wright are very impressive.
    yeah on the talent drop off thing, Which is why I don't put too much stock into the "he only lost to the best" argument.

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    Would have been nice had Hatton took on a Witter, Harris, Cotto, Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, Juan Diaz....just any of the guys that were at or around his weight class and in their primes/close to their primes and were quality fighters.

    I really wish Diego Corrales could have lived to fight at 140, I think a Hatton-Corrales fight would have been a classic although Diego seemed to be on the downside, I think he would have gotten used to 140 and settled in nicely after a disasterous fight at 147 vs the very strong Joshua Clottey.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    I think Hatton ranks higher because he accomplished more, but Vargas was the better fighter.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Vargas was the far better boxer but Hatton's career was handled better so it appears he was the better ranked fighter.
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    As it stands right now, which of these two ranks higher all time?
    Ricky Hatton but i felt Fernando Vargas was actually P4P a better fighter, its just his career was rushed and he never quite recovered from the Felix Trinidad fight.

    Fernando Vargas showed in his fights with Ike Quartey, Winky Wright, he was elite. Especially in the Ike Quartey fight he is the only fighter, to have ever beaten Ike Quartey convincingly IMO, forgetting Ike Quartey vs Winky Wright because that fight should of never happened, and i thought Fernando Vargas earned a draw against a very good Winky Wright.

    He's also the youngest Jr Middleweight champion in history i believe, so he was obviously elite its just a shame he was rushed into a fight with Felix Trinidad. Which he wasn't quite ready for, but mind you i feel he may of stopped Felix Trinidad in the 4th round, had Felix Trinidad not threw a very controversial low blow. That gave him time to recover, but we will never know.

    It is a hard one but as you stated Vargas was rushed too fast in his career and it hurt him, if his people had picked his fights a little more cautiously earlier on Fernando would still be around today...

    VaRGAS HAD THE BETTER SKILLSET AND HE was the harder hitter IMO....

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    I can agree with CFH and Master, Hatton did accomplish more, but Vargas fought fighters who were just as dangerous as Floyd and Manny and he hung with them...he damn near beat De la Hoya.

    Vargas was the better fighter and because he had better competition around him and he took on all comers he didn't accomplish what Ricky did.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Vargas took better opposition an beat some of them and put up a good fight with he ones he lost to the only good opposition Hatton had he lost to.
    Vargas.
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