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    I know when he fought Mike McCallumn it was believed that he could not punch. However, he would go on to be only the fourth man to put down Chris Eubank. While watching him fight the likes of Eubank and Benn, he seemed to really put leverage into his punches.

    So what is the concensus? Could steve the celtic warrior collins punch?

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    Default Re: could steve collins punch?

    No, I wouldnt call him a big puncher.

    What a lot of people forget about Eubank and Collins is how Chris nearly had him out of there, he smashed Steve in to the ropes, infact he was holding himself up with the ropes then Chris just stands back for 10 seconds and then the bell goes, Chris could have had him out of there, just like he could have with Thompson

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    Default Re: could steve collins punch?

    No, Collins was just fit and durable and strong , not a puncher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stander View Post
    I know when he fought Mike McCallumn it was believed that he could not punch. However, he would go on to be only the fourth man to put down Chris Eubank. While watching him fight the likes of Eubank and Benn, he seemed to really put leverage into his punches.

    So what is the concensus? Could steve the celtic warrior collins punch?

    Collins punching was all cumulative, he used to swarm fighters. But you are right about Eubank, he did drop Eubank and Eubank had a solid chin (not sure which 3 fighters dropped him before Collins? I only remember Watson dropping him at that stage)
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    .... I guess you meant 4th man to drop Eubank during his career and I read it wrong.
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    Collins was not a Puncher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stander View Post
    I know when he fought Mike McCallumn it was believed that he could not punch. However, he would go on to be only the fourth man to put down Chris Eubank. While watching him fight the likes of Eubank and Benn, he seemed to really put leverage into his punches.

    So what is the concensus? Could steve the celtic warrior collins punch?

    Collins punching was all cumulative, he used to swarm fighters. But you are right about Eubank, he did drop Eubank and Eubank had a solid chin (not sure which 3 fighters dropped him before Collins? I only remember Watson dropping him at that stage)
    Steve Collins actually dropped Chris Eubank, with a body shot if i remember rightly. And Nigel Benn knocked Chris Eubank down aswell, but that was more of a slip.

    I agree with pretty much everyone else, he was no puncher. And all of his stoppage wins came from accumulation of punishment. As for Chris Eubank i agree he did have both Steve Collins, Carl Thompson, out on there feet.

    And a prime Chris Eubank before his fight with Michael Watson, would of finished them both right there and then. I believe he actually had atleast 2 or 3 chances to finish off Carl Thompson, and does anyone remember when Chris Eubank had Henry Wharton in trouble. He was asking the ref to stop it if i remember rightly.

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    Collins didn't drop Eubank, he tripped over as he was moving backwards, he glanced his chest at best.. obviously it was counted though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Collins didn't drop Eubank, he tripped over as he was moving backwards, Collins glanced his chest at best.. obviously it was counted though
    Yea it was obviously a balance issue, but i still remember Steve Collins landing a solid right hand to the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Collins didn't drop Eubank, he tripped over as he was moving backwards, Collins glanced his chest at best.. obviously it was counted though
    Yea it was obviously a balance issue, but i still remember Steve Collins landing a solid right hand to the body.
    I don't think it was a solid shot.. is it on youtube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Collins didn't drop Eubank, he tripped over as he was moving backwards, Collins glanced his chest at best.. obviously it was counted though
    Yea it was obviously a balance issue, but i still remember Steve Collins landing a solid right hand to the body.
    I don't think it was solid shot.. it is on youtube?
    Its on this clip at 2:23 mark, from that angle it only looks like a glancing blow. But im sure when i had this fight, the replay showed it landing more solidly than that angle suggests. But maybe im thinking of another fight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EBzBsrstk

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    No, I wouldnt call him a big puncher.

    What a lot of people forget about Eubank and Collins is how Chris nearly had him out of there, he smashed Steve in to the ropes, infact he was holding himself up with the ropes then Chris just stands back for 10 seconds and then the bell goes, Chris could have had him out of there, just like he could have with Thompson

    Such a shame people dont manage to have those endless list of great fights from the 90s

    Only benn/eubank fights around on the net are the 2 they had with eachother. Collins-Eubank was the feud to end all feuds!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    No, I wouldnt call him a big puncher.

    What a lot of people forget about Eubank and Collins is how Chris nearly had him out of there, he smashed Steve in to the ropes, infact he was holding himself up with the ropes then Chris just stands back for 10 seconds and then the bell goes, Chris could have had him out of there, just like he could have with Thompson

    Such a shame people dont manage to have those endless list of great fights from the 90s

    Only benn/eubank fights around on the net are the 2 they had with eachother. Collins-Eubank was the feud to end all feuds!!
    I had all those fights, but i had to delete them. Such a shame Chris Eubank vs Carl Thompson 1 was a candidate for FOTY, and one of the best Cruiserweight fights of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Yea it was obviously a balance issue, but i still remember Steve Collins landing a solid right hand to the body.
    I don't think it was solid shot.. it is on youtube?
    Its on this clip at 2:23 mark, from that angle it only looks like a glancing blow. But im sure when i had this fight, the replay showed it landing more solidly than that angle suggests. But maybe im thinking of another fight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EBzBsrstk
    Doesn't even look like he touched him. Definitely a nothing knockdown.

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    Yeh you're right, didn't even touch him
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