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    Default Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Now that isnt a bad replacement for Pavlik, im quite happy if this fight happens. Full props to Williams who could of acted like a twat and said only at Middleweight.

    Paul Williams-Sergio Martinez is Close To Done For 12/5 - Boxing News

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Will that mean the winner will fight Ryan Rhodes? Can't see it, Williams is long overdue some big paydays and I think he batters Martinez.

    Gotta say well done to Williams for taking this after Pavlik pulling out though, I expected him to take a no name fighter, having said that if the choice comes up Williams always takes world class if he can.

    Does anyone think Williams can fill out to SMW effectively? If he could there would be some serious fights for him and he could finally get the fights he needs. He certainly has the height.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Williams' most difficult fight up to this point if it happens. I would say possibly more stylistically difficult than Pavlik. How much punching power does Martinez have?

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Yeah style wise this is probably tougher than Pavlik but I don't know, I'm not as high on Martinez as some, he's solid enough I guess.

    If everyone could become thought of as a danger man by beating Alex Bunema...

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    martinez is a very good fighter and i've been wanting to see this fight get made for a while. these two are the best 154-ers. p.will by UD.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Martinez will be a totally different fight than Pavlik for sure but in the couple of fights i've seen Martinez he seemed a bit too easy to hit. Williams will eventually beat him up i say.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Well this is the fight that I said should get made, once Pavlik pulled out.

    Martinez has quick hands, he moves around quickly, he darts in and out, and I actually think he will give Williams some fits. If he fights smart, I think he can win this on points.

    The only concern I would have, is that he hasn't fought since February when he fought against Cintron, so hopefully he won't be too rusty.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Like Martinez alot,superb boxer that can move all night.After beating Cintron twice in one fight and getting screwed,he's owed a big oppurtunity.Bottom line I dont think he'll be able to keep Williams off and will have his comfort zone,distance taken away as it goes rounds.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Like Martinez alot,superb boxer that can move all night.After beating Cintron twice in one fight and getting screwed,he's owed a big oppurtunity.Bottom line I dont think he'll be able to keep Williams off and will have his comfort zone,distance taken away as it goes rounds.
    If Williams has an offnight, Martinez will make Quintana's first performance against Williams look very mediocre. Martinez is THE premier sharp shoot at light middle IMO, but Williams volume cannot be ignored. Martinez is excellent at owning the range and he hit Cintron hard enough for Kermit to think it was a headbutt.

    I take Williams late TKO, but I give Martinez a better shot than I was giving Pavlik.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Like Martinez alot,superb boxer that can move all night.After beating Cintron twice in one fight and getting screwed,he's owed a big oppurtunity.Bottom line I dont think he'll be able to keep Williams off and will have his comfort zone,distance taken away as it goes rounds.
    I sorta see it the same way, Williams will eventually overwhelm him.
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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    I will put it simple: I would have preferred a Pavilk-Williams fight but Martinez is defo a very decent last minute replacement.
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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Like Martinez alot,superb boxer that can move all night.After beating Cintron twice in one fight and getting screwed,he's owed a big oppurtunity.Bottom line I dont think he'll be able to keep Williams off and will have his comfort zone,distance taken away as it goes rounds.
    If Williams has an offnight, Martinez will make Quintana's first performance against Williams look very mediocre. Martinez is THE premier sharp shoot at light middle IMO, but Williams volume cannot be ignored. Martinez is excellent at owning the range and he hit Cintron hard enough for Kermit to think it was a headbutt.

    I take Williams late TKO, but I give Martinez a better shot than I was giving Pavlik.

    Just one readers opinion of course.
    Absolutley right.Martinezs skillset makes Pavliks appear to be stuck in concrete.No doubt he has a better all around gameplan,multi geared rather than a one deminsional Pavlik.

    If Williams sleeps on him, he'll be collecting a big 'L'.Totally agree.But I just dont see it with rejuvinated and healthier Williams at this weight.Cintrons problems was tons of solid Martinez and just a bit of himself to me,and still managed to make it after being KO'd in there.I think Martinez needs spurts of a buffer,distance and Williams will very well take it from him.Better quality fight for sure.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    sergio isn't any more skilled than pavlik. he's just as basic but much more athletic and a lot faster. forrest of few years ago would've beaten him rather convincingly.

    this fight's at 160.

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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    sergio isn't any more skilled than pavlik. he's just as basic but much more athletic and a lot faster. forrest of few years ago would've beaten him rather convincingly.

    this fight's at 160.
    Completely disagree, skill wise Martinez is light years ahead of Pavlik. Watch his footwork, his slip and parry skill, his jab etc. With Pavlik you get plodding forward throwing 1-2's.
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    Default Re: Williams v Martinez close to a deal for 5th December

    he knows to move in more ways than forward. otherwise, he's your typical athletic talent. it's all in-and-out with him. he does counter better.

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