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    Default There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Last night on HBO Larry Merchant revealed that Kelly Pavlik has passed on the rematch and will never fight at 160 lbs again.

    This makes the Super Middle division even more dynamic.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Bute v Pavlik makes sense both HBO only decent fight out there for Bute, shame Pavlik will be destroyed.

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    Bute would tap that ass

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Hopkins ruined Kelly Pavlik, Martinez ended his career.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Bute might actually kill him.

    I don't necessarily think Hopkins ruined him though, or that his career is over. He's the same fighter he always was, he's just fighting better opposition who can exploit his weaknesses. He'll always be an exciting power puncher who is limited defensively and plodding. His lifestyle outside of the ring might have contributed to his inability to overcome elite opposition though.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Bute might actually kill him.

    I don't necessarily think Hopkins ruined him though, or that his career is over. He's the same fighter he always was, he's just fighting better opposition who can exploit his weaknesses. He'll always be an exciting power puncher who is limited defensively and plodding. His lifestyle outside of the ring might have contributed to his inability to overcome elite opposition though.
    exactly, he's the american version of Ricky Hatton, at least in terms of alcohol

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Pavlik's Decision Not Official, Martinez Rematch Still There - Boxing News

    During the live HBO broadcast of Paul Williams-Kermit Cintron on Saturday night, HBO commentator Larry Merchant informed the live audience that Kelly Pavlik has waived his right to a rematch with WBO/WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez. From what I was told, by sources close to both sides, Pavlik has NOT "officially" waived his right to rematch and still has until May 17 to make up his mind. While Pavlik might be heading in the direction of moving up to super middleweight, nothing has been put in writing and the option to exercise the rematch with Martinez is still an possibility.

    Martinez's agent Sampson Lewkowicz confirmed the information to BoxingScene.com.


    "I know the professional nature of [Pavlik's manager] Cameron Dunkin and [Pavlik's promoter] Top Rank and if any the decision is made by Pavlik, it will be made in writing and not through a third-party. I don't believe anything I hear until they make their decision in writing. To me what Merchant said is hearsay and in our business it doesn't work that way," Lewkowicz told BoxingScene.com.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Bute-Pavlik would make sense in the circumstances: It would give Pavlik to give a shot for a bell, saying that he lost the fight because he was partially weight drained, it would give Bute even more publicity in the US and that's the fight HBO is trying to do for a little time now. I think Bute will smack and KO him under 6 though.
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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood View Post
    Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.
    I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

    I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

    He would have a good chance of winning.
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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Come on Pavlik, stay there for one more fight and take the rematch and go up to SMW on a high. You can beat Martinez, but you should do more homework.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood View Post
    Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.
    I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

    I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

    He would have a good chance of winning.
    Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.
    I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

    I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

    He would have a good chance of winning.
    Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.
    Rough up? He simply cut him and what I like to call run-boxing.

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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood View Post
    Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.
    I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

    I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

    He would have a good chance of winning.
    Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.
    agree completely

    pavliks qualitys at middle the made him a world champ was power. He aint gonna get any stronger at 168 and the boys up there will just tear him limb from limb once they get the chance.

    Froch, kessler, bute, dirrell, ward, abraham, pascal and possibly diaconu all take pavlik at 168
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    Default Re: There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post

    I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

    I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

    He would have a good chance of winning.
    Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.
    agree completely

    pavliks qualitys at middle the made him a world champ was power. He aint gonna get any stronger at 168 and the boys up there will just tear him limb from limb once they get the chance.

    Froch, kessler, bute, dirrell, ward, abraham, pascal and possibly diaconu all take pavlik at 168
    I agree with that.

    Pavlik has shown nothing recently that makes me think he can deal effectively at SMW against a fair bunch of them guys. He should stay at MW and fight Martinez again, if he can improve and show something, then he can move up. Otherwise, I'm really not so sure if he has all that much to offer right now.

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