Julio Cesar Chavez

[TitoFan]

titofan,

fair enough bro. maybe i just overreacted a little. hey, i don't have anything against puerto rican fighters. in fact, i admire many of them. my favorito is wilfredo gomez. that little tiger was awesome at super bantamweight. best of all-time at that weight! wilfred benitez was also one of my favorites. i also liked "chapo" rosario. very sad that he died so young. another one i used to like is esteban dejesus. i think he was born at the wrong time (roberto duran's time) otherwise he would have dominated at lightweight. he also died very young in prison. i am very well versed about puerto rican champions, contenders and prospects. one thing's for sure, the mexico/puerto rico boxing rivalry is even more intense than the yankees/red sox and it rivals ohio state/michigan, usc/notre dame and alabama/auburn. there is nothing like it and we are just very fortunate that there are great, great past and present puerto rican and mexican fighters to give us this friendly rivalry. cheers bro!

There you go. Now you're talking some great Puerto Rican fighters. And you're absolutely correct about Esteban de Jesus. People don't realize how good this fighter was. In fact, Esteban handed Duran his first loss, if I'm not mistaken, in a non-title fight. Many years later, Duran paid his respects when Esteban was dying... a very classy show of respect by the great Duran. And yes... I agree that this rivalry is bigger than a lot of other rivalries in other sports.

[Spicoli]

Would be ironic them going in same time as Chavez played backseat to Tyson as far as King was concerned,telecasts and spotlight most of the time. Persoanilty,charisma and explosive fanfare Tyson 1st in no doubt....but I think (sober here) JCC far more accomplished and better fighter Just me. He even has his own troll...must be a superstar indeed.

[Mr140]

He is a shoe in but it i think Tyson my get it over Chavez . Also on him beating Prs champions he is just lucky that Benitez was not around, wouldn't of landed a punch.

[milmascaras1]

benitez was a great, great defensive fighter but he wasn't in chavez' weight class. he was a little bigger than chavez at welterweight. but i'll agree, it would have been a bad matchup for chavez but in rating them in the p4p category, chavez was still rated a little higher. no disrespect to benitez though because he was a great fighter and one of my favorites at the time.

[ElTerribleMorales]

benitez was a great, great defensive fighter but he wasn't in chavez' weight class. he was a little bigger than chavez at welterweight. but i'll agree, it would have been a bad matchup for chavez but in rating them in the p4p category, chavez was still rated a little higher. no disrespect to benitez though because he was a great fighter and one of my favorites at the time.

well i'd say Benitez' accomplishment of being the youngest world champion ever (a feat no one will ever beat cause it's now illegal to go pro before the age of 1, add in titles at 147 and 154 i'd say that they were pretty even, only thing Benitez didn't last as long on top cause of drug problems

[Chino]

there certainly should be more asian fighters in the HOF but let's face it, there aren't very many GREAT asian fighters from yesterday. the aforementioned asian fighters should be in but other than that, right now there aren't very many candidates. in the future, manny pacquiao, wonjongkam, luisito espinosa, hasegawa, will get there and possibly nonito donaire, if he can quit fighting minimumweights and man up and fight fighters that will give him a real fight.

Pac is not even up for debate.
Luisito wont get in... Hasegawa possibly.
Nonito is still a working progress.
PongsaShit is a disgrace to boxing.

As for not being many great Asian fighters... Uuuuummm.
Ceferino, Oguma, Oba, Ebihara, Shibata, Gushike, Chionoi, Kingpetch and many more.

Hhhhmmm how about Joichiro Tatsuyoshi or Yasuei Yakushiji? Not so sure about their quality of opposition but oh well.

Was reading that article in ESPN Boxing and even Naseem Hamed is considered as a HOF?

[Spicoli]

Joe should have his own wing for his brass set alone. Korean Yuh would be another should get in. Think it's the obscurity Stateside that makes it a struggle. It's changed in the new media age but some real gems of quality fighters went unappreciated for some. time.