Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Originally Posted by
Tysonbruno
I still believe 100% Floyd beats Pac no problem i think Roach and Pacquiao just do a good job at fooling everyone end of the day these recent opponents have recently been beaten or have had to make a catchweight or both.
Morales washed up Zahir Raheem beat him easy for god sake
David Diaz very nearly lost to the washed up Morales
De la Hoya weight drained beyond belief had to be re hydrated by IV before fight
Hatton was basically done after Mayweather look at the Lazcano fight
Cotto already been demolished by Margarito and nearly lost to Clottey and had to weigh 145lbs
Clottey just came to survive 12 rounds had been beaten by Cotto already
Margarito had been demolished by Mosley in his fight before last and was having to come down to 150lbs
I love 20/20 hindsight analysis.
Yeah 20/20 hindsight analysis is funny... It's also funny how Shane beating Margarito at 147 is a completely legitimate win, and Floyd beating Shane at 147 is a legitimate win, yet Pac giving Margarito an extra 3 pounds of 150, is "making him kill himself to make weight"... Forget that their was 17 pounds different on fight night and Margarito rehydrate as you would expect of a fit fighter..
And it's easy to say these opponents had question marks over them, but aside from Oscar, each would still be favorite to beat 9 out of 10 guys in their division.....
Floyd and Pac suffer the same problem.. They dominate their opponents so thoroughly that people can easily say that they are "past it" or "hand picked for their style"..
But against anyone else they would be competitive at the least, and an insurmountable challenge in probable reality...
At 140 or 147 or 154, who would you have given Pac more credit for beating in this fight? And you have to take into account the fight needs to at least sell a little.. Yes money does matter to these guys.. But's it's apples to apples when picking a fighter for them.. They'll completely dominate, and someone will say they were hand picked for his style...
Pac is just in a different league to those around him.. Same as Floyd... I gave up detracting from Floyds accomplishments long ago.. The fact is, they take fighters who are better than everyone else, and make them look like they have serious question marks over them...
I guess unless someone is in a war and only JUUUUST win,,,, unless the fight isn't TOO easy, people will say they beat an overrated, underdone fighter.... Maybe Pac should have given Margarito 5 rounds and made him look closer to Pac's level of greatness, to win over the people who see an outstanding performance, and instead of calling that performance like it is,,,, turn and just look at why the other person wasn't competitive...
Sometimes, just sometimes, fighters dominate because they are that good.. Not because their opponents are useless..
But people will go on saying that forever if they want to explain why someone wins so thoroughly.. i'm over it...
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