When Tommy and I get to talk again it turns to HIV, a subject now synonymous with Tommy Morrison. Its something he wants to talk about though and knowing this makes it easier for me to ask the questions that I wanted to ask.
Firstly I wanted to know how it felt hearing the news, “based on what I was told by our own government I was inclined to do my own research. A mistake was being made and it would come out. We are at that point now.” At first this isn’t the answer I was looking for but I see what he is trying to say-that the saturation of HIV and AIDS news in the world made you believe anything you were being told-The Duke didn’t agree with this and wanted to find out more. With this viewpoint in my head I am intrigued to know how he was told, “I was verbally informed, nobody ever showed me anything to say I had any virus, it was all dealt with in one phone call to my promoter.” Really? A life changing decision, simply told to somebody else via phone? It hardly seems fair, or professional. It was matters like this that got Tommy looking for answers. At this stage though the answers that the Duke was looking for weren’t so much about the existence of HIV but about what he should do next, I pressed him on his views from back in ’96. He had mentioned in several interviews that HIV doesn’t discriminate and that his lifestyle at the time was the cause for him being diagnosed with a serious health concern but move forward a few years and he is telling us how he never had it, it doesn’t exist and if it does it cannot pass between Man and Woman, “How do you suffer from something that you have never had symptoms from? I started doing my own research and realised it was bogus. Up to that point you just believe what people tell you, every fibre in my body told me I was fit and healthy and certainly not sick.”
My knowledge of HIV is fairly limited but I have heard many stories being bandied about in the media that it is in fact an ‘invented’ disease created by Dr Robert Gallo, now I hadn’t heard a lot about this but I want to know what somebody apparently suffering from this virus may think, “Robert Gallo has never been able to provide any scientific proof that there is such a thing as a contagious active virus that he named hiv. There is no proof. There are no scientific papers to be found showing how he discovered any such virus. No proof= no hiv.”
I start to feel out of my depth, this is a subject that I know Tommy has researched alongside wife Trisha very thoroughly, in this short moment that we have been talking about it I sense that there is a lot more to come from him. I want to know that if he has had a test that shows he has the virus why can he not accept its answers. Tests currently available are the ELISA and the Western Blot, back in ’96 it is alleged that Tommy took the ELISA, “First of all neither the Elisa nor the Western blot pick up HIV. Their disclaimers in their test packets confirm that. It's hard to pick up something that doesn't appear to scientifically exist? The tests should not be called hiv tests if they don’t detect anything on hiv. The tests do detect arthritis/foot fungus/lupus/allergies/hangnails etc - in fact 80 ailments that are NOT contagious in both the ring and outside the ring. I to this day- have not even seen a fake/false positive result from 1996.” This answer shocks me, the tests that are determining the way a persons life moves forward don’t even pick up the virus? I decide to check it out myself and find that Tommys claim is correct. Both tests have the disclaimers he mentions! Now that I am aware of this I wonder how the Duke feels about the fact that people all around the world are being told they have HIV everyday due to the results these tests give , “first they cannot diagnose hiv. The tests don’t diagnose it. The labs say they don’t diagnose it. The doctors say they are not educated to diagnose it. So WHO diagnosed me and who is allowing those tests to be used to destroy peoples lives and careers? Like mine.” Clearly it Is something he is passionate about, not just for himself but for others affected by it. This has lead Tommy to contact Robert Gallo and many other predominant people in the field to find a test that will 100% diagnose somebody with this virus, it is a test that has been hard to find, “It appears not to exist anywhere in the world. No-one has a test that picks up hiv infection. Why? The CDC/FDA/Doctors/Labs/Robert Gallo/Walgreens/Walmart/Chemists all do not have a test to detect "hiv". We are now getting in deep with the HIV information, it is something I want to pursue further as I know Tommy is keen to talk as much as I am eager to listen. Some people in my position would call him a madman for trying to dispute something that has caused so much heartbreak to people around the World, with this in mind I ask what he has to say to his doubters, “people are affected by the medication that is whats killing people. Not a bogus disease that has not been proven scientifically or a test that exists to prove hiv infection. i am most certainly not crazy - people though Einstein was crazy - the only crazy person on this subject is Robert Gallo. if i were crazy i would have been on the medication and would have been dead 15 years ago. people called Noah a crazy man until it started raining! To turn their way of thinking- they only have to ask the questions that I am asking myself- wheres the test? where's the virus test? where's the actual photo of the virus in the human body? if you call these questions that i am asking "as being crazy" i disagree. I am being extremely logical in my approach to asking simple questions that cant be answered.” Does he think the day will come when these questions will be answered, “it's happening already. If my fans would ask the same questions that would get us all somewhere. People asking questions is going to expedite an answer.” In what seems almost like an open invite to his fans Tommy is asking for support in what is his biggest fight yet, as just one man he has come up against several brick walls and with the backing of his fans these walls might get knocked down like his opponents in the ring did before, an example of this is how for over 200 days Tommy has been emailing Robert Gallo, Nora Grannell, Faye Caldwell and others often never receiving any kind of reply, I wonder if he thinks this means there is something to hide, “yes no doubt. Why would you not be happy to provide information on your discovery? Why would you not want to prove . Gallo thought he was in the clear- now I come along with questions- i haven’t died-i haven’t had symptoms-I haven’t taken their medications- and I am simply asking for proof that this invention of his exists?” The fact that the Duke feels fine in mind and health prompted him to ask for a copy of the test results from 1996 so he could see for himself what he was diagnosed with but these have proved to be just as difficult to come by as an email response from Robert Gallo does this lead him to think there is some kind of cover up or have these DR’s been so negligent that they have just lost them, “That’s what I have been wondering. In addition to the fact that the tests that they performed on me actually do not detect hiv. Those tests still to this day do not detect hiv .The test manufacturers state just that. Cover up? - Yes because hiv does not scientifically exist. Lost? Why would they lose such a valuable piece of evidence.”
There have been some responses in Tommy’s continuous search for truth, Faye Caldwell the counsel for Quest Labs has tried to find out as much as possible for him but things came to an interesting stage when Tommy was given a set of results, alleged to be his, that showed the HIV virus, when these results appeared questions were immediately asked. They showed no information to connect them to Tommy himself, there was no Date of Birth, No social security number and via the emails Tommy was being informed that another Doctor was involved in the testing process, one he had never had any form of interaction with and one he had never heard of. This intrigued me, “Faye Caldwell is the legal counsel for Quest Labs of Las Vegas. What they sent me- after years of being told had been purged- was a "partial" result. (which I never have heard of). No DOB nor my ss# was listed on their email and the doctor named on the email - was not my doctor- someone i had never heard of - who i believe is just a vet that has since died 4 years ago. Can you imagine I was kicked out of boxing by a VET? Also - again- their legal counsel are not able to provide me with any further information? Why?”
There is one bit of information out there from a Dr Hiatt who went to the media with news of the Dukes diagnoses, I ask whether he thought there was a lot of cover up and secrecy regarding this HIV test result ,” Dr.Hiatt worked for Quest Labs. He supposedly retrieved my results to show Dr.Margaret Goodman in 2007 even though I had been requesting the results myself and they told me that they didnt have them in 2007. It is not only unprofessional - it is slanderous - neither he nor Dr.Margaret Goodman were my physicians.. Yes there appears to be a lot of cover up and disclosure of information without my knowledge and approval.”
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