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    Default Top 5 worst Refs in history

    Ok "in history" is a bit of a stretch.

    INPO

    Russell Mora
    Joe Cortez
    Arthur Mercante Jr
    Roger Tilleman
    Randy Neumann

    Damn I forgot Lawrence Cole.
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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    How about five worst performances?

    1. Ruby Goldstein not stopping the third Emile Griffith-Benny Paret fight.
    2. Mills Lane ignoring Larry Holmes calls for him to stop the Marvis Frazier fight. Holmes would hit frazier, wave to Lane, hit Frazier, wave to Lane etc.
    3. Marlon Wright's awful performance at the end of the first Bute-Andrade fight.
    4. Randy Newman doing I don't know what in the first Abraham-Miranda fight.
    5. (Tie) Laurence Cole's career and Russell Mora last night.
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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2

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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    yesturdays was a disgrace.

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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by concuidado View Post
    yesturdays was a disgrace.

    Aint that the truth.

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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    How about five worst performances?

    1. Ruby Goldstein not stopping the third Emile Griffith-Benny Paret fight.
    2. Mills Lane ignoring Larry Holmes calls for him to stop the Marvis Frazier fight. Holmes would hit frazier, wave to Lane, hit Frazier, wave to Lane etc.
    3. Marlon Wright's awful performance at the end of the first Bute-Andrade fight.
    4. Randy Newman doing I don't know what in the first Abraham-Miranda fight.
    5. (Tie) Laurence Cole's career and Russell Mora last night.
    Marlon Wright is not just a bad ref, he is straight up fraudulent. His behavior during the Bute knockout was so over the top blatantly corrupt, that it blows my mind that he is still allowed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    Last edited by IamInuit; 08-15-2011 at 05:31 PM.

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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    I agree with everyone and I think Mora should be hung with hooks through his nipples for a few days and forced to watch his mistakes on a ceiling screen. By the way, excellent post short and sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    When? I just watched that fight again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    When? I just watched that fight again.
    When Moore got up by the count of nine. Partly Yvons fault because he did not go to the neutral corner pronto but Sharkey should have directed him their and resumed the count and not wait to start counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    When? I just watched that fight again.
    When Moore got up by the count of nine. Partly Yvons fault because he did not go to the neutral corner pronto but Sharkey should have directed him their and resumed the count and not wait to start counting.
    I just watched it right now. Not only isn't the count long, it is exactly nine seconds. Moore is down at 56 seconds and on his feet at 1:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    When? I just watched that fight again.
    When Moore got up by the count of nine. Partly Yvons fault because he did not go to the neutral corner pronto but Sharkey should have directed him their and resumed the count and not wait to start counting.
    I just watched it right now. Not only isn't the count long, it is exactly nine seconds. Moore is down at 56 seconds and on his feet at 1:05.

    I've seen that Japanese clip a hundred times and Sharkey is out of frame for the first 9 count. I own the fight and there are arguably 2 long counts but definitely one and much of the boxing media and press that were their at the time agree with me. Moore himself felt the same way and that is why he gave Yvon a rematch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Richard Greene Ali/Holmes

    Dave Berry Dempsey/Tunney 2

    Jack Sharkey Durelle/Moore 1

    Wyatt Earp Sharkey/Fitzsimmons Yes thee Wyatt Earp lol

    Wlalcott like a deer in the head lights in Ali/Liston 2
    Geeze how'd I leave Walcott out?

    What was wrong with Sharkey in the Mongoose fight?
    Long count
    When? I just watched that fight again.
    When Moore got up by the count of nine. Partly Yvons fault because he did not go to the neutral corner pronto but Sharkey should have directed him their and resumed the count and not wait to start counting.
    I just watched it right now. Not only isn't the count long, it is exactly nine seconds. Moore is down at 56 seconds and on his feet at 1:05.

    I've seen that Japanese clip a hundred times and Sharkey is out of frame for the first 9 count. I own the fight and there are arguably 2 long counts but definitely one and much of the boxing media and press that were their at the time agree with me. Moore himself felt the same way and that is why he gave Yvon a rematch.
    I own the fight as well. There is no long count. Moore not only disagreed? He was described as "seething" at Durelle's complaints. As for the press, Sports Illustrated, just as one example, doesn't even mention a concern in their article on the fight.
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    Default Re: Top 5 worst Refs in history

    It was a long count and its as simple as that. My grandfather was their with his brother and both told me about it when I was a wee lad. Tracey Callis has written about it and so has Springs Toledo over the years along with many many other historians. I guess we own two different fights lol.

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