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    Default If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Floyd will make him say UNCLE long before Maidana made him say it. Floyd KO 4.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    No, Floyd isn't a hard hitter like Maidana and always starts cautiously. If he stops Ortiz in 4 then I will eat my socks. I can see it going the distance with Ortiz losing heart down the stretch. I want to be wrong though and thankfully I often am.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Floyd will make him say UNCLE long before Maidana made him say it. Floyd KO 4.
    Yes... and Adamek to win by DQ.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Floyd was buzzed by Shane early, he lost a few of the first few rounds against Zab and he lost a couple of the first to Hatton. No way he stops Ortiz before round 5. It takes Floyd a few rounds to deconstruct his opponent. I like the bet +398 of FLoyd winning in rounds 7-12 or Floyd by DQ/TKO/KO +243. I really think Floyd stops Ortiz, but I'll admit the -148 of Floyd by decision are tempting too.
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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    In June 2005 I spoke to Arturo Gatti and Buddy McGirt on a conference call just before his fight with Floyd. I was working for a site called rabbitpunchboxing.com and was assigned to call in at that conference. Buddy and Arturo were saying the strategy they were going to beat Mayweather with was called "Hacoona Matata" whereby Gatti was going to try to hit Floyd right behind the left ear whenever he did that shoulder roll thing. Dont know why McGirt called it "Hacoona Matata" if thats slang for that part behind the ear or what. I spoke to Buddy first and then asked Arturo if it was true. He said yes, they were going to hit ANY AVAILABLE TARGET---hips, elbows, biceps, behind the ear, to try and inflict any kind of pain and slow him down. The problem was Floyd was so goddam fast, Gatti couldnt touch him anywhere, Hacoona Matata or anywhere else for that matter.

    Now we're hearing Ortiz will try the same thing---hit any target legal or borderline-legal. I think despite the 6 years that have elapsed since Floyd's fight with Gatti, that Floyd hasnt really lost much speed if any, and that Ortiz will suffer the same fate as Arturo, who quit after 6. In fact Gatti had a better chin so Ortiz prob wont make it past 4 or 5 and will quit in the same fashion he quit against Maidana.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Yes... and Adamek to win by DQ.
    Dairy Queen, man. wtf are you talking about.?

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    I want to be wrong though and thankfully I often am.
    Good point Miles. But AdamGB was NEVER wrong.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Will you be watching this in Korea?

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Man I would love to but I dont know where the F&%^ I can find it. Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I want to be wrong though and thankfully I often am.
    Good point Miles. But AdamGB was NEVER wrong.

    Miles wasn't talking about me... =)

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    I know. But I've seen the light, and I've come to realize, grudgingly so, that you have always been right all along, and I have been humbled by that, and that a law should be passed henceforth detailing said righteousness and subsequent humility and engraved in gold and silver leaflet foil.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    I think Ortiz has redeemed himself against Berto and winning a version of the title.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Hard to say, Floyd gives so many looks and styles it's really anyone's guess? I really think the layoffs have given Floyd the opportunity to grow into a welterweight thats why he wasnt shy about facing Shane straight up and on the front foot even after being crumpled.

    Is it conceivable Floyd fights straight ahead on the front foot dishing it out? Sure is, but at the same time so is a content to box his ear off scenario too.

    I think Floyd will draw him in absorb hooks on his shoulders and arms in the shell just to rough Ortiz up and score big time inside. Floyd is a tremendous in fighter, couple that with some forearms and spoiling and I think he unnerves Ortiz and really drags him into deep cold water mentally to drown him. Ortiz will get cut fast and it will go down hill from there

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I know. But I've seen the light, and I've come to realize, grudgingly so, that you have always been right all along, and I have been humbled by that, and that a law should be passed henceforth detailing said righteousness and subsequent humility and engraved in gold and silver leaflet foil.
    I'm not saying that I'm never wrong... Just that Floyd, a cautious, relatively small and light punching welterweight is very very unlikely to stop Ortiz within 4 rounds.

    Floyd is not a KO puncher and a slow finisher. He hasn't stopped a guy within the first half of a fight since 1998... At 130 pounds. I can't see him breaking that habit now... To me it would be as likely as Vitali getting disqualified was.

    I hope that Floyd does KO Ortiz in four, because that insane post has me dreading a 'cable guy' type of scenario from you if I am right again.

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    Default Re: If Ortiz quit on Maidana, imagine how he'll quit on Floyd!

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Floyd will make him say UNCLE long before Maidana made him say it. Floyd KO 4.
    And like he quit against Berto
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