Marlon Brando on Jews and Native Indians

[generalbulldog]

THis is one of the main reasons why I'm not a liberal anymore. Lyle got it right. The Liberals choose who to defend and persecute, when their whole ideology is suppose to be "open minded" and helping out minorities and their fellow man isn't it? One of the liberals agenda has always been on picking the you know evil and greedy Jews who run Hollywood and the financial sector.

Lyle started a thread called "What's the deal with socialism?" He should have started one called what's the deal with the liberals?

So you didn't steal their land? Native Indians and Palestinian's have a lot in common. A bunch of land munchers in denial.

Manifest Destiny miles...liberals Manifest Outrage at mundane "injustices" like what happened to the Indians 200 years ago....it happened nothing can fix it and yet you still bitch about it.

Liberals man, that's how they roll. Blaming this generation on the injustices of the past like they are a part of it. Or they like to blame certain groups for their success and hardwork, the Jews is a prominent scapegoat for guys like Miles.

[El Kabong]

Liberals man, that's how they roll. Blaming this generation on the injustices of the past like they are a part of it. Or they like to blame certain groups for their success and hardwork, the Jews is a prominent scapegoat for guys like Miles.

Yes, exactly




The United States as viewed by conservatives: "Land of the free, home of the brave"

The United States as viewed by liberals: "Oppressive regime of rich white men who oppressed, stole, and murdered, their way into power....the ONLY nation where there was slavery, the ONLY nation where there was racism, the ONLY nation of constant injustice"

I live in the United States miles, and I must say it's a pretty fucking nice place

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

The sad thing is that i can't even hate on Lyle now. The institutions that govern us are almost nationless.

[El Kabong]

The sad thing is that i can't even hate on Lyle now. The institutions that govern us are almost nationless.

....come to the dark side.....it's the only way

[Gandalf]

400 hundred plus treaties broken with the Indians and of course modern America would like to sweep it under the carpet and pretend that the nation wasn't built on bloodshed and mass genocide. They want it to be all nuclear family and apple pie and then look what America has become today. It can't even respect human rights of the privacy of its own citizens. Ah yes, but it is all apple pie and rosy cheeks.

[El Kabong]

400 hundred plus treaties broken with the Indians and of course modern America would like to sweep it under the carpet and pretend that the nation wasn't built on bloodshed and mass genocide. They want it to be all nuclear family and apple pie and then look what America has become today. It can't even respect human rights of the privacy of its own citizens. Ah yes, but it is all apple pie and rosy cheeks.

So America is the only nation ever to treat indigenous people that poorly miles? Is that what point you're trying to get across?

[Andre]

Liberals man, that's how they roll. Blaming this generation on the injustices of the past like they are a part of it. Or they like to blame certain groups for their success and hardwork, the Jews is a prominent scapegoat for guys like Miles.

Yes, exactly






The United States as viewed by liberals: "Oppressive regime of rich white men who oppressed, stole, and murdered, their way into power....the ONLY nation where there was slavery, the ONLY nation where there was racism, the ONLY nation of constant injustice"

Who wrote that?

[El Kabong]

I wrote it and it IS how liberals view the United States.....just look at miles' posting he's liberal, look at all of the Occupy Wall Street crowd....liberals...and they hate America, they hate that it's so great and other countries do so poorly. Some people cannot wrap their minds around American Exceptionalism...some people like to make up excuses for it like America was built by the blood and sweat of slaves and murdered indians and not by the Founding Fathers.

[X]

Assuming Miles' argument is logically applied everywhere, the English should all fuck off back to Germany and Scandinavia and the Welsh should move back in

[Andre]

I wrote it and it IS how liberals view the United States.....just look at miles' posting he's liberal, look at all of the Occupy Wall Street crowd....liberals...and they hate America, they hate that it's so great and other countries do so poorly. Some people cannot wrap their minds around American Exceptionalism...some people like to make up excuses for it like America was built by the blood and sweat of slaves and murdered indians and not by the Founding Fathers.

Yeah but they know your country isnt the only one. Thats putting words in their mouths. Everyone knows the whites from all over had their slaves and killed and stole native men for their lands and at times here their women folk.

We did it, British did it, The Boers, Spanish in Peru decimated them and they were peaceful welcoming people too.

[Gandalf]

400 hundred plus treaties broken with the Indians and of course modern America would like to sweep it under the carpet and pretend that the nation wasn't built on bloodshed and mass genocide. They want it to be all nuclear family and apple pie and then look what America has become today. It can't even respect human rights of the privacy of its own citizens. Ah yes, but it is all apple pie and rosy cheeks.

So America is the only nation ever to treat indigenous people that poorly miles? Is that what point you're trying to get across?

Why the relativity? It was awful and in breaking treaties showed a remarkable lack of class and honesty in the settlers. It was beyond awful and was genocide.

It is healthy to point out the truth and not cower from it because we are ashamed and at heart when dealing with the facts, I believe most American's feel torn. They like what they have, but when they learn how they got it, their skin inevitably starts to crawl.

It was savagery and ironically the Indians were called the savages.

[El Kabong]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

[Gandalf]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

[El Kabong]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

The Swiss Odd someone with your hatred of large banks would like them...though they did allow the Nazi's to keep their money there so that sort of fits into your whole "I hate the Jews" thing.....Finland? Another "sit on the fence" country miles when you are a Super Power, you don't have the luxury of being able to sit on the fence which is probably why you hate the US and England, they are decisive, they must be.


Andre, there's nothing now that can be done about slavery or the indians....LET IT GO

[Gandalf]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

The Swiss Odd someone with your hatred of large banks would like them...though they did allow the Nazi's to keep their money there so that sort of fits into your whole "I hate the Jews" thing.....Finland? Another "sit on the fence" country miles when you are a Super Power, you don't have the luxury of being able to sit on the fence which is probably why you hate the US and England, they are decisive, they must be.


Andre, there's nothing now that can be done about slavery or the indians....LET IT GO

They can push their economies without oppressing and killing globally. Many nations do so. Being a global superpower does not give you the right to do what you want and inflict whatever suffering you like on other nations. The UK has a terrible history and the US has arguably surpassed any harm that we may have inflicted. I will not nod my head and say 'Good job America or good job Britain on your colonial past'. That would be dishonest and making excuses for power hungry war mongers and that is all that they are.

There is a lot that can be done to atone for our pasts. We can present the true history in our textbooks and show it for what it was which was a racist, dishonest, bloodthirsty, imperialist conquest. America is a big country, half of it could very easily be given back to the Indian population and the same with Australia and the Aborigines. It won't happen because we are cowardly, dishonest and greedy. Britain has its own responsibility to Ireland and our own particular land theft.