Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[TitoFan]

Now that the artificial "0" is gone.... so has some of the buzz. And if and when he moves up to cruiserweight where he belongs... and loses the occasional fight against lesser-name opposition, (but his own size).... the buzz will slowly fade away.

History will mostly remember Junior as a pretty good fighter with a good chin, who rode his daddy's coattails to a bloated record..... and got his ass handed to him in a complete shutout against the first world-class opposition he ever faced. He will always be remembered also as a beneficiary of shady match-making by his godfather, Jose Sulaiman..... as well as shady proceedings in the doping tests of several of his fights.

Mexicans will continue to love him, just because he's Mexican..... the same as the love for convicted cheater Margarito. Seems you can pull off the worst shit in boxing, but..... as long as you're Mexican, you get a free pass.

A word of advice: Save your adulation for up and coming young Mexicans, like Canelo. He's got no "Saul Alvarez Sr." pulling strings with the WBC, or bloating up his record on bums. And learn to hate on fighters based on facts, not nationality.

Note: For the onslaught that is sure to come..... I've publicly praised Mexican fighters like JMM, Barrera, and Finito Lopez. Meanwhile, I've hated on local fighters like John Ruiz, Hector Camacho, and Daniel Santos. By contrast, the little "Mexican connection" in here has been incapable of showing even 1% of that objectiveness.

No hate.... just the facts.

All of a sudden you're an Alvarez fan. Yeah, ok.

Chavez being Mexican means he has heart. Which he showed. If he was Puerto Rican he would of quit around the 9th or 10th round

No..... if he was Puerto Rican he would've found a way to win.

[Mars_ax]

Now that the artificial "0" is gone.... so has some of the buzz. And if and when he moves up to cruiserweight where he belongs... and loses the occasional fight against lesser-name opposition, (but his own size).... the buzz will slowly fade away.

History will mostly remember Junior as a pretty good fighter with a good chin, who rode his daddy's coattails to a bloated record..... and got his ass handed to him in a complete shutout against the first world-class opposition he ever faced. He will always be remembered also as a beneficiary of shady match-making by his godfather, Jose Sulaiman..... as well as shady proceedings in the doping tests of several of his fights.

Mexicans will continue to love him, just because he's Mexican..... the same as the love for convicted cheater Margarito. Seems you can pull off the worst shit in boxing, but..... as long as you're Mexican, you get a free pass.

A word of advice: Save your adulation for up and coming young Mexicans, like Canelo. He's got no "Saul Alvarez Sr." pulling strings with the WBC, or bloating up his record on bums. And learn to hate on fighters based on facts, not nationality.

Note: For the onslaught that is sure to come..... I've publicly praised Mexican fighters like JMM, Barrera, and Finito Lopez. Meanwhile, I've hated on local fighters like John Ruiz, Hector Camacho, and Daniel Santos. By contrast, the little "Mexican connection" in here has been incapable of showing even 1% of that objectiveness.

No hate.... just the facts.

All of a sudden you're an Alvarez fan. Yeah, ok.

Chavez being Mexican means he has heart. Which he showed. If he was Puerto Rican he would of quit around the 9th or 10th round

No..... if he was Puerto Rican he would've found a way to win.

Margarito never quit, but his face did several times.