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    Default Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Carl Froch to fight George Groves on November 23 | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

    Groves vs Froch deadline has passed, and it's all been signed for November 23rd, we are awaiting an announcement soon, once the location has been picked.

    Manchester arena seems to be in the lead for hosting the fight.
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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    i think froch is too tough for groves

    it should be a top fight tho
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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i think froch is too tough for groves

    it should be a top fight tho
    There is pros and cons in both fighters.


    Froch is tougher
    He's more experienced
    He's fought harder opposition
    He has a solid chin

    Groves is naturally faster
    I'd say a bit more power, Froch has been powerful recently, he swarms and finishes, Groves has that 1 shot power.
    Groves is younger

    My heart says Groves by spectacular knockout.
    My boxing knowledge says Froch walks through him inside 3.
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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i think froch is too tough for groves

    it should be a top fight tho
    There is pros and cons in both fighters.


    Froch is tougher
    He's more experienced
    He's fought harder opposition
    He has a solid chin

    Groves is naturally faster
    I'd say a bit more power, Froch has been powerful recently, he swarms and finishes, Groves has that 1 shot power.
    Groves is younger

    My heart says Groves by spectacular knockout.
    My boxing knowledge says Froch walks through him inside 3.
    Thats an interesting choice, Groves by KO. I think we are more likely to see the extreme safety first style that Booth teaches when opposed any type of threat ala Valuev, Wlad, De Gale etc.

    He wont take Froch on points doing that and there is no way hes as strong as Kessler to stand and trade the whole fight.

    Booth to me isnt a great trainer. When you look at Haye and Groves, neither has particularly good head movement or defence. Its all based on moving away with their feet. When both tire they are even more hittable.

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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i think froch is too tough for groves

    it should be a top fight tho
    There is pros and cons in both fighters.


    Froch is tougher
    He's more experienced
    He's fought harder opposition
    He has a solid chin

    Groves is naturally faster
    I'd say a bit more power, Froch has been powerful recently, he swarms and finishes, Groves has that 1 shot power.
    Groves is younger

    My heart says Groves by spectacular knockout.
    My boxing knowledge says Froch walks through him inside 3.
    Thats an interesting choice, Groves by KO. I think we are more likely to see the extreme safety first style that Booth teaches when opposed any type of threat ala Valuev, Wlad, De Gale etc.

    He wont take Froch on points doing that and there is no way hes as strong as Kessler to stand and trade the whole fight.

    Booth to me isnt a great trainer. When you look at Haye and Groves, neither has particularly good head movement or defence. Its all based on moving away with their feet. When both tire they are even more hittable.
    Finally you speak some sense. I agree groves is hittable but Haye doesn't get hit much.

    I don't think for a second that Groves will KO him, but I would love it.

    Froch between 3-6.
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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Haye got hit plenty in his last fight. Theres a reason hes been put in with plodders like Barrett, Ruiz, Harrison and Valuev. He struggles with pace and combination punching (more than one punch at a time). Hes fine getting out of the way of the odd jab or right hand but add any other punches and hes run out of ring to skirt around.

    If you watch the De Gale fight, the last few roumds and Groves is struggling with the pace and thats against De Gale who has looked shit in a couple of recent fights over the distance.

    I see a late stoppage for Froch and im very surprised that Booth is pushing for this fight. Id have thought hed want to steer Groves towards Stieglitz if anything. Personally id have got him another fight for experience against Periban.

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    To much to soon for groves, and I never pick froch, I think froch swarms and walks thru him and gets him out in 5 or 6

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    Froch doesnt mind getting hit to get to the target.
    Froch is too experienced and tough to loose.
    Froch in 7.

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    Default Re: Froch vs Groves complete, but to be announced shortly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Carl Froch to fight George Groves on November 23 | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

    Groves vs Froch deadline has passed, and it's all been signed for November 23rd, we are awaiting an announcement soon, once the location has been picked.

    Manchester arena seems to be in the lead for hosting the fight.
    Anothe Froch fight in November!! This is excellent news. I know where I'M going for my birthday!!

    I think Groves could frustrate Froch because he is so fresh, sharp - has good head-movement IMO and is also a very focus fighter
    However Carl is a very rangy fighter with that engine and so ultimately this fight should be a combination of Nino Benvenuti v Monzon 1 & 2
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    I like Froch but if he found losing to Kessler and then Ward, both while on his feet at the end of 12 rounds, difficult to cope with, I can't imagine what being sparked out half way by a young pretender is going to do to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    I like Froch but if he found losing to Kessler and then Ward, both while on his feet at the end of 12 rounds, difficult to cope with, I can't imagine what being sparked out half way by a young pretender is going to do to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    I like Froch but if he found losing to Kessler and then Ward, both while on his feet at the end of 12 rounds, difficult to cope with, I can't imagine what being sparked out half way by a young pretender is going to do to him.
    Your living in a dream world!
    Couldn't agree more Froch getting stopped by groves? Froch has been down once in his career to Taylor, that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    I like Froch but if he found losing to Kessler and then Ward, both while on his feet at the end of 12 rounds, difficult to cope with, I can't imagine what being sparked out half way by a young pretender is going to do to him.
    Your living in a dream world!
    Couldn't agree more Froch getting stopped by groves? Froch has been down once in his career to Taylor, that's it.
    It isn't beyond the realms of possibility though is it? Groves hits hard and Froch isn't getting any younger. Froch has also been in plenty of wars which will catch up with him the longer he fights on. It is a bold prediction, and I agree it is unlikely, but it isn't impossible by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    I like Froch but if he found losing to Kessler and then Ward, both while on his feet at the end of 12 rounds, difficult to cope with, I can't imagine what being sparked out half way by a young pretender is going to do to him.
    Your living in a dream world!
    Couldn't agree more Froch getting stopped by groves? Froch has been down once in his career to Taylor, that's it.
    It isn't beyond the realms of possibility though is it? Groves hits hard and Froch isn't getting any younger. Froch has also been in plenty of wars which will catch up with him the longer he fights on. It is a bold prediction, and I agree it is unlikely, but it isn't impossible by any means.
    He doesn't hit harder than Kessler though and Kessler was soundly beaten.

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    This has been announced today. November 23rd, looking like Manchester but that hasn't been nailed down yet.

    Froch: "He's got his trainer Adam Booth, who's a master tactician, as he calls himself"

    "Him and his trainer, too smooth Booth, will have a plan and I'm sure he'll be running..."

    Groves: "There's no blueprint"

    I've got Froch in 4 or 5 a la Bute.

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