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    We Brits like Pascal because he had a barnstormer with Froch when they fought.
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    Bute looked shocking last time out and that was over a year ago. I think it's Bute who is cashing out here. Pascal wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Bute looked shocking last time out and that was over a year ago. I think it's Bute who is cashing out here. Pascal wins.
    Pascal has had a serious injury, so both fighters best days may be over. I hope I am wrong and Pascal wins. He is a friend of Froch and they have an agreement to have a rematch.
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    If Bute is not a headcase after the Ko losses, I think Pascal is there to be methodically picked apart. I've never seen Pascal throw a shot that was hard to see coming. Pascals feet just seemed to be all over the place for me. He not as limited as Miranda but I can definitely see something similar possibly happening. Then again that was a different Bute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    If Bute is not a headcase after the Ko losses, I think Pascal is there to be methodically picked apart. I've never seen Pascal throw a shot that was hard to see coming. Pascals feet just seemed to be all over the place for me. He not as limited as Miranda but I can definitely see something similar possibly happening. Then again that was a different Bute.
    @J_Undisputed - good break-down. How much will the weight play a role? This is at 175. Historically, Pascal's weight class, not Bute's. Even if Bute can pick apart Pascal, will Pascal walk through his punches? It looked like Grachev was able to walk through some big punches from Bute in his only other fight above 168 that I'm aware of.

    Still, this is an exciting fight that I'm looking forward to.

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    This is a 50 50 fight and one I feel NOT TO BET ON, not sure who will win this one.

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    Pascal KO between 5 and 9. Pascal looked good in his last fight. Butes inactivity may be a problem and also he may never have been at the level of Pascal/Froch in the 1st place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    If Bute is not a headcase after the Ko losses, I think Pascal is there to be methodically picked apart. I've never seen Pascal throw a shot that was hard to see coming. Pascals feet just seemed to be all over the place for me. He not as limited as Miranda but I can definitely see something similar possibly happening. Then again that was a different Bute.
    @J_Undisputed - good break-down. How much will the weight play a role? This is at 175. Historically, Pascal's weight class, not Bute's. Even if Bute can pick apart Pascal, will Pascal walk through his punches? It looked like Grachev was able to walk through some big punches from Bute in his only other fight above 168 that I'm aware of.

    Still, this is an exciting fight that I'm looking forward to.
    Oh i agree. definitely a good fight. The weight issue doesnt seem to be a huge issue to me. Pascals a quick guy and can generate some power. While Bute might be accused of being punchy at this point, if he sticks to keeping his gaurd high, i think its just easier for him to see Pascals punches and weather the storm than it is for pascal to avoid punches once his legs go. My concern is pascal not respecting Bute enough to fight a smart fight and doubling the force on a bute punch by lunging into it. hopkins and dawson came on late in their outings against pascal after pascal wore himself out. Pascal is not a guy who likes to get hit and when he goes straight back and falls back to the ropes, Bute could have his opportunity to line up his money punches.
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    This is definitely a fight Bute can win if he boxes the entire 12 rounds... he has to move and box and pot shot Pascal. Carry this to a decision- a decision he can win.
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    Bute getting KOd Pascal looks in great shape.

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    No idea who wins or how good I expect this fight to be, they are both kind of wild cards right now. Neither has looked any good for well over a year or two, but Pascal hasn't had the same cobwebs to shake off, plus he has a chin to begin with. Question is whether he'll be throwing with intent himself, he did a lot of posturing and waiting around against that tomato can he fought last time out, if he tries to much of that I could see Bute winning just by being decent and boxing. Wouldn't surprise me to see Pascal blitz him either though

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    Bute is just the better fighter. He has the talent but does he have the heart? I've been going back and forth on this fight. I'm picking Bute because he can put punches together and that's the way he can beat Pascal. Still I wouldn't bet on it.

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    Pascal if Bute doesn't end it early with a body shot I see Pascal being aggressive enough to get the decision
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    Pascal looks in great shape, but what was with the black tape over his mouth at the weigh in?
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