The Old-Timers would destroy the New Guys

[brocktonblockbust]

Old timers like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston, Joe Walcott, Jack Johnson, Ron Lyle, Max Baer..............

they woudl beat the kidneys out of the Klitschkos.

(read: troll! )

[Beanflicker]

Any good MW from the golden era (SRR, Jake Lamotta, ect) would beat any HW today because the HW's today have no stamina, so if the MW could survive the first few rounds of explosiveness they would probably box circles around the HW when he gassed.

Imagine what a LHW like Billy Conn would do to a Klitschko.

[Dark Lord Al]

Any good MW from the golden era (SRR, Jake Lamotta, ect) would beat any HW today because the HW's today have no stamina, so if the MW could survive the first few rounds of explosiveness they would probably box circles around the HW when he gassed.

Imagine what a LHW like Billy Conn would do to a Klitschko.

He would be buried to rest the next day.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Any good MW from the golden era (SRR, Jake Lamotta, ect) would beat any HW today because the HW's today have no stamina, so if the MW could survive the first few rounds of explosiveness they would probably box circles around the HW when he gassed.

Imagine what a LHW like Billy Conn would do to a Klitschko.

You are joking right, beans? Haha.

Wlad could do triathlon in the morning, have a 3some with hayden pierre and her hoe friends In the dressing room and proceed to beat on Billy Conn with one arm.

Wlad knocks him out early.

[beenKOed]

Like always , you overstate your case.
Some, of those you mentioned, would give as good as they got, some would be big let downs.
If you take those guys towards the end of their careers, like the Klits are, you are going to be surprised by the results, in my opinion.

[brocktonblockbust]

agreed.

@Dark Lord Al

Al you crazy old boy, answer me this mate: Would Tyson Fury be able to beat a prime sonny Liston?

[Max Power]

Let me ask you this Brockton...

Have you ever SEEN a PRIME Sonny Liston?

Please link the fights in which prime Liston shows clear superiority over Fury?

Liston at 210lbs is even SLOWER than Fury at 260! Wide telegraphed punches as well.

I wonder how Fury would perform against the current cruiser division, that is, opponents like Liston faced.

I wonder how Fury would perform against guys with such poor records and losing streaks as Liston fought.

I think it would have been a good fight but one in which Fury would definitely win.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Fury has bigger heart that's for sure. He aint no quitter like liston.

Fury is a true fighting man through and through.

[Spicoli]

I agree. Wacko was a god

Wait,what

[beenKOed]

agreed.

@Dark Lord Al

Al you crazy old boy, answer me this mate: Would Tyson Fury be able to beat a prime sonny Liston?

You say the fugin Klits. You din say nutin bout no fugin Tyson Fury fugin pussy.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I know Brock is joking because there is no possible way that anybody could tell me with a straight face that billy Conn is going to beat Wlad, let alone compete with him. He couldn't be a sparring partner for wlad cuz that's assault. Its crimninal.

[Beanflicker]

Any of the old guys would have killed the new guys because the old guys fought a lot more which meant they had more time to get better at boxing.

A guy who fought 10 times is gonna be better than a guy who fought 1 time and a guy who fought a 100 times (greb) is gonna be better than a guy who fought >50 times (Mayweather) and that's a scientific fact, I don't know how anyone would argue that.

People always argue who was the best boxer of all time and names like SRR, Greb, Leonard, Duran, Whitaker, ect get brought up. All of those answers are just a product of ignorance.

Len Wickwar was the greatest fighter of all time because he fought nearly 500 times. Can you imagine how much boxing knowledge he had after his last fight? At that point he could kill a man with one punch, which is why I think he had to stop.

[brocktonblockbust]

agreed.

@<a href="http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/member.php?u=11999" target="_blank">Dark Lord Al</a>

Al you crazy old boy, answer me this mate: Would Tyson Fury be able to beat a prime sonny Liston?

You say the fugin Klits. You din say nutin bout no fugin Tyson Fury fugin pussy.

Fury is the Cream de la Cream. he sucks it down good. haha

@maxpower

dude seriously, LIston would destroy with his jab alone EITHER Klit. Sonny in his prime, a magnificient victory over a very large, high-ranked man: ONLY a Cassius Clay 22 year old can stop a force like this

[Max Power]

I've seen that one before. And it serves to show that even in this tribute which is supposed to showcase Liston, he is...

(a) slow as a wet wig
(b) uncoordinated
(c) lacking in fundamental skills
(d) utterly ridiculous.

The correct disposition for Liston is..

He dominated over a division filled with cruiserweights OR bums OR a combination thereof OR caught decent opponents on heavy loss streaks.

AND

What a pathetic champion that he could not even defeat a 22 year old cruiserweight named Cassius Clay with no power and fundamentally poor skills! But then again we can barely blame Liston because both fights were shady (Liston retired with a fucked shoulder and then took a dive because his family were threatened) and Liston was likely very old by then.

If you don't swallow the dive thing then you are admitting that Liston has a jaw so glassy that it makes Morrison and Klitschko's chin look like steel!

So we can SEE that 210lb Liston is far slower and imo of otherwise comparable technique (I think Fury even looks better personally, Liston doesn't move and can't even keep his hands up). That's pretty sad that a HW champ from the golden era is slower than a fighter 50lbs heavier!! But somehow this guy is going to outdo the Klitschko's, 2 of the best jabbers in history by slow motion left hand paws from Liston??

You didn't REALLY swallow that story about Liston did you? His jab had some moments to be sure but "Best jab of all time" or near to it is romantic hogwash from an era long gone.

Same with his power... Completely overrated. He could outpunch Chris Byrd I've no doubt or Eddie Chambers but he could not match a REAL modern HW puncher.

One of Liston's best win opponents is Patterson... P.A.T.T.E.R.S.O.N! A man who would struggle in amateur boxing today, look at him!

Back in Liston's day boxing was only a rudimentary sport, not fully complete and worked out yet. Today it is a globalised and professional sport.

[Dark Lord Al]

agreed.

@Dark Lord Al

Al you crazy old boy, answer me this mate: Would Tyson Fury be able to beat a prime sonny Liston?

Tyson Fury can barely beat a drum.