Do you agree with Buncies assessement, Floyd lacking a Frazer/Duran to be TBE?

[MIKAY]

Hey guys, not posted in forever but after a great night of boxing thought i'd pop in.

Must say I agree with Buncies assessment regarding Floyds new phrase TBE (The best ever)

Whilst like most I think he is one of the best, but can't compete with some of the past greats simply because he hasn't had a arch rival. Well he did have one in Pac 4-5 years ago but it didn't materialise.

What do you guys think? what can he do from here to improve his legacy? Do you think because of failing to fight Pac it has hurt his legacy?

[Master]

Definitely not fighting Manny hurts his legacy. Floyd is a great fighter and beaten quality fighters. I still hate the prick.

[FinitoElDinamita]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

[Master]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

[MIKAY]

To be fair to him the Alvarez fight was a mega fight, and Alvarez was huge and talented.

[Max Power]

To be fair to him the Alvarez fight was a mega fight, and Alvarez was huge and talented.

Agree. Alvarez is Mayweather's best win imo!!

[FinitoElDinamita]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

You know what bro, I got to disagree with that one.. Floyd called him out a couple times around 05-06 and Kneeguel and co declined claiming that they weren't ready..

Mikay, Floyd-Alvarez was not a " Mega fight ".. It was a big event based on the popularity of the fighters but in reality that was not some mega fight..

[boyla]

ducking is the word

[Master]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

You know what bro, I got to disagree with that one.. Floyd called him out a couple times around 05-06 and Kneeguel and co declined claiming that they weren't ready..

Mikay, Floyd-Alvarez was not a " Mega fight ".. It was a big event based on the popularity of the fighters but in reality that was not some mega fight..

Did not realise that Cotto turned it down, thought Floyd went for the easier option of Getting than Cotto or Tszyu.

Floyd beating Canelo was quality.

[Silkeyjoe]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

100% agree with Bincey. As good as Mayweather is he carefully selects his opponents and has neveer beaten a top fighter in their prime. Judging on the performance what odds is Mayweather to fight a genuine top welter (ie Thurman or Porter) in his next couple of fights? He'll take the easy option, Maidana rematch in September and Khan in May 2015. Hes smart, he knows if he loses his 0 his appeal is gone and there goes his 40mil+ paydays.

[ono]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

100% agree with Bincey. As good as Mayweather is he carefully selects his opponents and has neveer beaten a top fighter in their prime. Judging on the performance what odds is Mayweather to fight a genuine top welter (ie Thurman or Porter) in his next couple of fights? He'll take the easy option, Maidana rematch in September and Khan in May 2015. Hes smart, he knows if he loses his 0 his appeal is gone and there goes his 40mil+ paydays.

The easy option being the fighter (Maidana) who a load of people on here think gave him the toughest fight of his career?

[bradlee180]

Well, boxers know their liabilities better than the public does.
In 2002, Jose Luis Castillo showed everyone the blueprint, and only Maidana has followed it.

Jose Luis Castillo
Marcos Maidana


Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito
Kostya Tszyu
Manny Pacquiao

^These guys don't run out of gas. They just keep comin' and comin' with that fast pace, they're tough and have no problem taking shots as long as they get off a few of their own in the exchanges.


Mayweather's shortcoming is to pressure-fighting; it always has been, and he's always known it better than anyone...

[Beanflicker]

I don't agree with it, personally.

I think that logic has been used to discriminate against a few guys over the years (Roy Jones in particular) whose only crime was being too good and too untouchable; of achieving a level of excellence that was so "head and shoulders" above all their peers that they never had a true rival.

SRR has been considered TBE for many decades. Who was his rival? Jake Lamotta? What was so great about Jake Lamotta? Why was he any better than Canelo or Maidana?