David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

[Britkid]

That is a gross misrepresentation of what Dia said. Removing hands and heads is something you have added to justify your own uncomfortable reaction to an opinion that does not chime with what you think is the answer. The kind of Islam presided over in this country originates in Saudi Arabia and is not I am afraid to inform you rooted in tolerance. It has no concept of personal responsibility and morality and is tainted by the idea that shame is only what you feel in the context of the community, as in what other muslims think of you. Guilt is not personal so is it any wonder what the extreme fundamental expression of this becomes ? Those partaking in such heinous acts wish to belong to a society that we as British citizens want no part of. You may be an atheist but you have grown up in a Christian country and they are not playing by your rules. It is OK to lie to you to pacify you. That may sound prejudiced and biased to you but it is the truth. The freedoms you hold dear will fast disappear if you think that intolerance is just a symptom of some small disenfranchised minority within British Muslims.

The reason this country works is because although considered a Christian country, our real religion is Capitalism. That is a 'religion' that can overpower IS. To become more extreme is what IS want, they want to place their values on us, and the likes of Dia bando make the job of IS that bit easier, if that is really what they believe. The UK is finally becoming a more liberal country, not less. Although occasionally taking the odd backward step, we do realize that social tolerance benefits the majority, and the extremes of society is not the way to go.

Although you are entitled to your opinion, the evidence is less than .01% of the British Muslim population has gone to fight in Iraq and Syria, that is a very 'small disenfranchised minority'. A lot more people went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, but this did not lead to an increase in Communism and Anarchism in the UK. There is no need to take a step back as a Country, the Government already has the 'tools' to deal with this, if they need more there is time to get agreement in Parliament.

[Britkid]

I have tolerance but how much is too much, you can only put up with so much easy targets
women, children, Aid workers etc shameful, shame on us we sit here, living in fear of upsetting
people who WANT TO WIPE US OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

There is no need to be so scared. What IS has done is terrible, but you have got a lot more chance of dying going to work tomorrow. The Government has the tools to deal with the problem, we need to have empathy with the families of the victims of these terrible crimes, and stay calm.

[Dia bando]

That is a gross misrepresentation of what Dia said. Removing hands and heads is something you have added to justify your own uncomfortable reaction to an opinion that does not chime with what you think is the answer. The kind of Islam presided over in this country originates in Saudi Arabia and is not I am afraid to inform you rooted in tolerance. It has no concept of personal responsibility and morality and is tainted by the idea that shame is only what you feel in the context of the community, as in what other muslims think of you. Guilt is not personal so is it any wonder what the extreme fundamental expression of this becomes ? Those partaking in such heinous acts wish to belong to a society that we as British citizens want no part of. You may be an atheist but you have grown up in a Christian country and they are not playing by your rules. It is OK to lie to you to pacify you. That may sound prejudiced and biased to you but it is the truth. The freedoms you hold dear will fast disappear if you think that intolerance is just a symptom of some small disenfranchised minority within British Muslims.

The reason this country works is because although considered a Christian country, our real religion is Capitalism. That is a 'religion' that can overpower IS. To become more extreme is what IS want, they want to place their values on us, and the likes of Dia bando make the job of IS that bit easier, if that is really what they believe. The UK is finally becoming a more liberal country, not less. Although occasionally taking the odd backward step, we do realize that social tolerance benefits the majority, and the extremes of society is not the way to go.

Although you are entitled to your opinion, the evidence is less than .01% of the British Muslim population has gone to fight in Iraq and Syria, that is a very 'small disenfranchised minority'. A lot more people went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, but this did not lead to an increase in Communism and Anarchism in the UK. There is no need to take a step back as a Country, the Government already has the 'tools' to deal with this, if they need more there is time to get agreement in Parliament.

This is not the Spanish civil war, a guy from our village fought in that war and the WW2, they made
a film about him Tom Spain, there were two factions in Spain in the Middle East there are more factions than 2, by the way YOU NEVER ANSWERED my question , would you fight to defend your family or duck behind the 3 piece sweet.

[ryanman]

I have tolerance but how much is too much, you can only put up with so much easy targets
women, children, Aid workers etc shameful, shame on us we sit here, living in fear of upsetting
people who WANT TO WIPE US OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

There are crossed wires here I think.
Nobody is saying that IS are not evil. No one wants them back. They aren't going to be coming home and living freely here, don't worry about that. But we will deal with them by our standards. Which is more than they deserve, but why the fuck should we let these utter utter cunts change our way of life that we have developed over 100s of years. They want us to treat them like animals as it helps their cause.

Now, that's not to say we shouldn't try to kill them before they get back. That's fair game.

I know you are getting angry feeling that liberals are excusing them in some way (something which has wrongly happened before IMO) but I don't think it's happening this time. I honestly think that everyone agrees that they are evil, illogical, criminals, butchers. Also I bet most Muslims are disgusted by them. I have been doing some reading on message boards and the Muslims talking there are all appalled that their religion is being invoked like this.

[El Kabong]

A) How do you know the beheader is a Londoner?

B ) ISIS got their arms from the allied forces miles because Obama pulled the troops out leaving a VOID which ISIS has filled.

C) Obama wanted so badly to be President Peace Prize, but War isn't an easy venture, you can't half ass a war and that's exactly what America has done because it apparently isn't kosher to use 100% of the force America has on people who don't stand a chance against us. And yes that makes no fucking sense what so ever.

America fighting a war these days is like a Prime Mike Tyson being told "You're only allowed to win by UD".....we need to and should have already unleashed pure Biblical Hell on these motherfucks and collapsed this idea of caliphates as soon as it sprung up!

[Britkid]

This is not the Spanish civil war, a guy from our village fought in that war and the WW2, they made
a film about him Tom Spain, there were two factions in Spain in the Middle East there are more factions than 2, by the way YOU NEVER ANSWERED my question , would you fight to defend your family or duck behind the 3 piece sweet.

I would say the Spanish Civil War is a fair example. With every extreme from Fascist to Anarchist involved in the fight.

But anyway back to your final point, the answer is to gain the trust of the local population. We have tried fighting for the last decade or so, that does not seem to have worked, so maybe showing the benefits of the Capitalist system (a stable life, with minimal risk of being blown up by extremists) is the way to go. That seems to me the best way to deal with the problem and keep my family safe.

[El Kabong]

This is not the Spanish civil war, a guy from our village fought in that war and the WW2, they made
a film about him Tom Spain, there were two factions in Spain in the Middle East there are more factions than 2, by the way YOU NEVER ANSWERED my question , would you fight to defend your family or duck behind the 3 piece sweet.

I would say the Spanish Civil War is a fair example. With every extreme from Fascist to Anarchist involved in the fight.

But anyway back to your final point, the answer is to gain the trust of the local population. We have tried fighting for the last decade or so, that does not seem to have worked, so maybe showing the benefits of the Capitalist system (a stable life, with minimal risk of being blown up by extremists) is the way to go. That seems to me the best way to deal with the problem and keep my family safe.

The Spanish Civil War was Fascism vs Communism plain and simple. Fucking anarchists from the States tried to help out the Commies there....I've seen the documentaries about the Lincoln Brigade. Want to know why the Commies lost that one? Look no further than to the attitude of the Lincoln Brigade. Same shit for brains idealists that want fast food workers to be paid $15 an hour, same bastards inciting riots in Ferguson, MO. 2,800 volunteers.....2,800 spoiled little shits trying to spread the slime of communism and socialism across the world.

The best way to deal with the Middle East is to either conquer them or isolate them. They won't leave us alone regardless of our buying their oil and providing them with plenty of money so I guess we'll just have to fight the violence they bring to us with more violence....a lot more.

[Dark Lord Al]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

[Dia bando]

This is not the Spanish civil war, a guy from our village fought in that war and the WW2, they made
a film about him Tom Spain, there were two factions in Spain in the Middle East there are more factions than 2, by the way YOU NEVER ANSWERED my question , would you fight to defend your family or duck behind the 3 piece sweet.

I would say the Spanish Civil War is a fair example. With every extreme from Fascist to Anarchist involved in the fight.

But anyway back to your final point, the answer is to gain the trust of the local population. We have tried fighting for the last decade or so, that does not seem to have worked, so maybe showing the benefits of the Capitalist system (a stable life, with minimal risk of being blown up by extremists) is the way to go. That seems to me the best way to deal with the problem and keep my family safe.

Capitalism may work for us but will it work for them,! remember our way of life suits us, a different
culture very much different values. So we bribe them to leave us alone,! and hope that they have
us by the bollocks that they don't twist to hard.
Again papering over the cracks, yes mate lovely wall paper but the wall is falling down, I am not
sure money will make things better. There is a lot of rebuilding to be done, and not houses hatred
run's deep, when family's , villages etc have been wiped out.
Sorry but it's human nature, for people to want revenge and can you blame them, us lot in the west
can not comprehend there suffering can we.

[Britkid]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

[El Kabong]

How did the West become like it is today? And why did the East fall behind?



There you go it's about REASON and about RULES. Now Muslims could join our side, a number of them have, but the fundamentalist Muslims the IS guys, the Al Qaeda guys, the Boko Haram guys, the Taliban guys....they run their areas not by reason and rule of law, but by force. Force being the only thing they respect I saw we give it to them....both fucking barrels!!! We should launch an assault on IS that obliterates them! They want people to convert, pay tribute, or die.....it's time they faced the same question only when we say "convert" we mean to a religion of PEACE which is supposed to be what Islam is, but apparently not if they're beheading innocent people, and committing acts of terrorism.

[Britkid]

This is not the Spanish civil war, a guy from our village fought in that war and the WW2, they made
a film about him Tom Spain, there were two factions in Spain in the Middle East there are more factions than 2, by the way YOU NEVER ANSWERED my question , would you fight to defend your family or duck behind the 3 piece sweet.

I would say the Spanish Civil War is a fair example. With every extreme from Fascist to Anarchist involved in the fight.

But anyway back to your final point, the answer is to gain the trust of the local population. We have tried fighting for the last decade or so, that does not seem to have worked, so maybe showing the benefits of the Capitalist system (a stable life, with minimal risk of being blown up by extremists) is the way to go. That seems to me the best way to deal with the problem and keep my family safe.

Capitalism may work for us but will it work for them,! remember our way of life suits us, a different
culture very much different values. So we bribe them to leave us alone,! and hope that they have
us by the bollocks that they don't twist to hard.
Again papering over the cracks, yes mate lovely wall paper but the wall is falling down, I am not
sure money will make things better. There is a lot of rebuilding to be done, and not houses hatred
run's deep, when family's , villages etc have been wiped out.
Sorry but it's human nature, for people to want revenge and can you blame them, us lot in the west
can not comprehend there suffering can we.

Investment is the way forward. Iraq and Syria are potentially very wealthy countries, and if we can show this to the population, you would be surprised how quickly they adapt. Many businesses in the UK are run successfully and peacefully by Muslims, there is no reason why over the course of time the Syrian and Iraqi populations can take the same path.

[Dark Lord Al]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

If you think an Arab fairy tale will run me out of my own country then my friend you don't know me at all .

[Britkid]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

If you think an Arab fairy tale will run me out of my own country then my friend you don't know me at all .

That is good, just remember it is a horrible fairy tale to most of us, and as I suggested to Dia bando earlier, you are in a lot more potential danger going to work tomorrow than with anything IS is doing.

[Dark Lord Al]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

If you think an Arab fairy tale will run me out of my own country then my friend you don't know me at all .

That is good, just remember it is a horrible fairy tale to most of us, and as I suggested to Dia bando earlier, you are in a lot more potential danger going to work tomorrow than with anything IS is doing.

It's a typical fairy tale of ignorant peasants.