David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

[Britkid]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

If you think an Arab fairy tale will run me out of my own country then my friend you don't know me at all .

That is good, just remember it is a horrible fairy tale to most of us, and as I suggested to Dia bando earlier, you are in a lot more potential danger going to work tomorrow than with anything IS is doing.

It's a typical fairy tale of ignorant peasants.

Hence the need for capitalism. Peasantry is no way to live in this day and age, and it is a black mark on us if we cannot change that.

[Dia bando]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

Born and bred mate and Welsh and proud off it, I DO NOT BOW DOWN TO NO ONE, respect me first
and I shall give respect back, I do not have to move from MY COUNTRY why should I there is a old
saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. A simple but true saying.!!!!!!

[Britkid]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

Born and bred mate and Welsh and proud off it, I DO NOT BOW DOWN TO NO ONE, respect me first
and I shall give respect back, I do not have to move from MY COUNTRY why should I there is a old
saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. A simple but true saying.!!!!!!

Yes I agree, the UK is a multi cultural society that adapts its Constitution to its citizens.

[Dia bando]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

Born and bred mate and Welsh and proud off it, I DO NOT BOW DOWN TO NO ONE, respect me first
and I shall give respect back, I do not have to move from MY COUNTRY why should I there is a old
saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. A simple but true saying.!!!!!!

Yes I agree, the UK is a multi cultural society that adapts its Constitution to its citizens.

By chance are you a activist in human rights, you would make a fine politician if I was on the Titanic
with you, and we hit that iceberg and you told me we were not going to sink, I could may well believe you, but I am a realist and I don't believe any fucker.

[El Kabong]

Hence the need for capitalism. Peasantry is no way to live in this day and age, and it is a black mark on us if we cannot change that.

There will ALWAYS be poor, there will ALWAYS be starving, it's just a fact of life. Capitalism can't remedy that entirely but it IS the most fair system of economy. It rewards good ideas, hard work, etc....communism, socialism is a suffer 1 suffer all system only people still find ways to make more money be it withholding from others, stealing, cheating, under protection of bureaucracy etc.

Yes I agree, the UK is a multi cultural society that adapts its Constitution to its citizens.

Multiculturalism is bullshit, it will rot you from the inside out!!!!

[Dark Lord Al]

If they want to live in Britain then don't cover your face , if you have a problem with that then fine , it is my opinion. Last time I checked Muslims are in the minority , therefore cast a vote to decide if the can cover their faces in public , it is a democracy after all.
Or are we all to bow down to an outdated belief , that by the way does not integrate with modern british society , as Muslims have no respect for white women , and also treat their own women as second class , I'm fucking sick of everyone treading on egg shells when Muslims are mentioned , as for saying I should go to France that is pretty funny , when if Muslims want to dress like that and act like that , then perhaps they can go to a country that has a majority Muslim population ?
Do you remember the case of the Muslim tagged terrorist who escaped police custody by going into the mosque dressed as a man and leaving out of the back door in a full burka ?

We do not need to bow down to anyone. We can take pride in respecting the individual's rights. There are aspects of all religion I am not very comfortable with, but providing what they do is not illegal, it is there right, and I need to deal with that. If you are so deeply unhappy with what the UK is today, perhaps you need to find somewhere else to go?

Born and bred mate and Welsh and proud off it, I DO NOT BOW DOWN TO NO ONE, respect me first
and I shall give respect back, I do not have to move from MY COUNTRY why should I there is a old
saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. A simple but true saying.!!!!!!

Yes I agree, the UK is a multi cultural society that adapts its Constitution to its citizens.

The Muslim faith is causing the problem , and I repeat it is a minority and not an Indigenous religion of England , therefore the Muslims need to change not the majority of the British isles.

[denilson200]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

[Dia bando]

A simple answer when Amir Khan, is asked what he is what does he say I am a Muslim he never
says he's British, a Muslim first, when I am asked I am a British or Welsh I never say I am a
Methodist or Baptist the truth my friends weather we like it or not.

[Dark Lord Al]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

Thank you Einstein .

[Beanz]

That is a gross misrepresentation of what Dia said. Removing hands and heads is something you have added to justify your own uncomfortable reaction to an opinion that does not chime with what you think is the answer. The kind of Islam presided over in this country originates in Saudi Arabia and is not I am afraid to inform you rooted in tolerance. It has no concept of personal responsibility and morality and is tainted by the idea that shame is only what you feel in the context of the community, as in what other muslims think of you. Guilt is not personal so is it any wonder what the extreme fundamental expression of this becomes ? Those partaking in such heinous acts wish to belong to a society that we as British citizens want no part of. You may be an atheist but you have grown up in a Christian country and they are not playing by your rules. It is OK to lie to you to pacify you. That may sound prejudiced and biased to you but it is the truth. The freedoms you hold dear will fast disappear if you think that intolerance is just a symptom of some small disenfranchised minority within British Muslims.

The reason this country works is because although considered a Christian country, our real religion is Capitalism. That is a 'religion' that can overpower IS. To become more extreme is what IS want, they want to place their values on us, and the likes of Dia bando make the job of IS that bit easier, if that is really what they believe. The UK is finally becoming a more liberal country, not less. Although occasionally taking the odd backward step, we do realize that social tolerance benefits the majority, and the extremes of society is not the way to go.

Although you are entitled to your opinion, the evidence is less than .01% of the British Muslim population has gone to fight in Iraq and Syria, that is a very 'small disenfranchised minority'. A lot more people went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, but this did not lead to an increase in Communism and Anarchism in the UK. There is no need to take a step back as a Country, the Government already has the 'tools' to deal with this, if they need more there is time to get agreement in Parliament.

With all due respect this is not just my opinion garnered by looking at religion as an outsider and drawing conclusions from a limited base of knowledge and experience. I do not know if that is what you are suggesting but I suspect that is what you mean and that you truly believe that your religion of capitalism will hold the keys to overpower IS. In this way you are not so very different from Lyle. Lyle is honest and clever enough though to realise that reason will not work when dealing with religious bigots/zealots/fools.

I am not a subscriber to the same belief system and have seen that the elevation of unrestrained money driven capital has in this country led to an erosion of moral principles and useful , meaningful traditions. It is this very tradition of tolerance that is being threatened now as much by naive apologists as it is by Muslims who have no intention of going to fight for IS. They are as money mad as some atheists and have no problem treading on whoever they feel like to get there way. This is not a problem isolated to some far off land or some small percentage of what you perceive to be a tolerant religion. It is actually time to take a step back as a country before we become tainted by other peoples intolerance. We are in danger of throwing away the real valuable principles of the past by being over eager to accommodate those who have no respect for what it means to be British.

[ryanman]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

You aren't describing IS as freedom fighters are you?

The people that the US declare war on 'hit back'?

Who are you referring to? Not IS surely?

All they fight and kill for is to implement a warped ideology. They aren't an oppressed people.

[Dark Lord Al]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

You aren't describing IS as freedom fighters are you?

The people that the US declare war on 'hit back'?

Who are you referring to? Not IS surely?

All they fight and kill for is to implement a warped ideology. They aren't an oppressed people.

No he is just a dickhead.

[ryanman]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

In fact what you are saying is total rubbish.

We are talking about IS.
The only grievance IS have stated against them is that they stopped their murderous rampage with air strikes.
And, haven't we hear time and again that the US armed IS? So at what point did these 'grievances' arise?
You are mixing up some valid points about US foreign policy and including IS as some form of oppressed people fighting back. When nothing could be further from the truth.
Do you know what IS stand for?

You said 'they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances' but what legit grievances have IS got with the US?

[Dark Lord Al]

This is getting fucked up now!

The Guy doing this is clearly a Londoner too.



David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters' shown in video murdering aid worker - Middle East - World - The Independent

So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

In fact what you are saying is total rubbish.

We are talking about IS.
The only grievance IS have stated against them is that they stopped their murderous rampage with air strikes.
And, haven't we hear time and again that the US armed IS? So at what point did these 'grievances' arise?
You are mixing up some valid points about US foreign policy and including IS as some form of oppressed people fighting back. When nothing could be further from the truth.
Do you know what IS stand for?

You said 'they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances' but what legit grievances have IS got with the US?

Isis has a problem with the USA and uk etc. because they are not all religious Muslim peasants like Isis.

[Dia bando]

That is a gross misrepresentation of what Dia said. Removing hands and heads is something you have added to justify your own uncomfortable reaction to an opinion that does not chime with what you think is the answer. The kind of Islam presided over in this country originates in Saudi Arabia and is not I am afraid to inform you rooted in tolerance. It has no concept of personal responsibility and morality and is tainted by the idea that shame is only what you feel in the context of the community, as in what other muslims think of you. Guilt is not personal so is it any wonder what the extreme fundamental expression of this becomes ? Those partaking in such heinous acts wish to belong to a society that we as British citizens want no part of. You may be an atheist but you have grown up in a Christian country and they are not playing by your rules. It is OK to lie to you to pacify you. That may sound prejudiced and biased to you but it is the truth. The freedoms you hold dear will fast disappear if you think that intolerance is just a symptom of some small disenfranchised minority within British Muslims.

The reason this country works is because although considered a Christian country, our real religion is Capitalism. That is a 'religion' that can overpower IS. To become more extreme is what IS want, they want to place their values on us, and the likes of Dia bando make the job of IS that bit easier, if that is really what they believe. The UK is finally becoming a more liberal country, not less. Although occasionally taking the odd backward step, we do realize that social tolerance benefits the majority, and the extremes of society is not the way to go.

Although you are entitled to your opinion, the evidence is less than .01% of the British Muslim population has gone to fight in Iraq and Syria, that is a very 'small disenfranchised minority'. A lot more people went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, but this did not lead to an increase in Communism and Anarchism in the UK. There is no need to take a step back as a Country, the Government already has the 'tools' to deal with this, if they need more there is time to get agreement in Parliament.

With all due respect this is not just my opinion garnered by looking at religion as an outsider and drawing conclusions from a limited base of knowledge and experience. I do not know if that is what you are suggesting but I suspect that is what you mean and that you truly believe that your religion of capitalism will hold the keys to overpower IS. In this way you are not so very different from Lyle. Lyle is honest and clever enough though to realise that reason will not work when dealing with religious bigots/zealots/fools.

I am not a subscriber to the same belief system and have seen that the elevation of unrestrained money driven capital has in this country led to an erosion of moral principles and useful , meaningful traditions. It is this very tradition of tolerance that is being threatened now as much by naive apologists as it is by Muslims who have no intention of going to fight for IS. They are as money mad as some atheists and have no problem treading on whoever they feel like to get there way. This is not a problem isolated to some far off land or some small percentage of what you perceive to be a tolerant religion. It is actually time to take a step back as a country before we become tainted by other peoples intolerance. We are in danger of throwing away the real valuable principles of the past by being over eager to accommodate those who have no respect for what it means to be British.

Beanz I find the beheading of people truly horrific, this is totally unacceptable in our society but
we must say so out loud and not whisper, if this upsets people they are living in the wrong Country,
most immigrants integrate, but some alienate themselves and never truly integrate.
I have Muslim friends they ARE GOOD PEOPLE and would give you the shirt off there back, but they
have integrated into our society.
As I have said in the past I having nothing against Religion, just some of the fuckers that preach it,
as you no mate I am a bush Baptist.