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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    They killed a aid worker and journalists what for,!! they kill there own again what for,!! in there
    fucked up World of Fundamentalism this is what await those who disagrees with them.
    Theses cowards kill on camera for fun, come on show us your face you cowards they are the scum
    of the earth. I do hope we catch theses people.

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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    Yes I personally would make all Muslims men and women show there faces all the time in public. Scum like these killers walk our streets and the spineless goons in power do nothing, another Londoner another hiding his face , pathetic coward.
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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    These people are not cowards. You do not go to war voluntarily if you are a coward.

    There is a need to support those fighting IS, also to win over the general population, so the likes of IS are broken up permanently. This is not going to be easy, IS is a cruel but clever opponent, and we sadly are going to see more scenes like this.

    For our part we should not alienate or demonize the whole of the British Muslim community. If we do, guess what? Some will fall under the spell of IS, and go and fight for them. And this will lead to more terrible acts.

    Anti Muslim propaganda just makes IS's task easier and the Allies' harder.
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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    These people are not cowards. You do not go to war voluntarily if you are a coward.

    There is a need to support those fighting IS, also to win over the general population, so the likes of IS are broken up permanently. This is not going to be easy, IS is a cruel but clever opponent, and we sadly are going to see more scenes like this.

    For our part we should not alienate or demonize the whole of the British Muslim community. If we do, guess what? Some will fall under the spell of IS, and go and fight for them. And this will lead to more terrible acts.

    Anti Muslim propaganda just makes IS's task easier and the Allies' harder.
    Who is preaching anti Muslim other than these Isis Muslims themselves ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    These people are not cowards. You do not go to war voluntarily if you are a coward.

    There is a need to support those fighting IS, also to win over the general population, so the likes of IS are broken up permanently. This is not going to be easy, IS is a cruel but clever opponent, and we sadly are going to see more scenes like this.

    For our part we should not alienate or demonize the whole of the British Muslim community. If we do, guess what? Some will fall under the spell of IS, and go and fight for them. And this will lead to more terrible acts.

    Anti Muslim propaganda just makes IS's task easier and the Allies' harder.
    Who is preaching anti Muslim other than these Isis Muslims themselves ?
    Your comment does not help; religious freedom is the peoples right in this Country. I am an atheist, but I would not want the State to force all Muslims to not cover their faces, it is their right. If you want that sort of thing, go to France, where that is law (to a degree).

    But you are right about IS not living by the Islamic ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    These people are not cowards. You do not go to war voluntarily if you are a coward.

    There is a need to support those fighting IS, also to win over the general population, so the likes of IS are broken up permanently. This is not going to be easy, IS is a cruel but clever opponent, and we sadly are going to see more scenes like this.

    For our part we should not alienate or demonize the whole of the British Muslim community. If we do, guess what? Some will fall under the spell of IS, and go and fight for them. And this will lead to more terrible acts.

    Anti Muslim propaganda just makes IS's task easier and the Allies' harder.
    Being Liberal has done no good what so ever, hard line stance must be taken we have allowed
    Fundamentalist to preach hate, why because we are fucking stupid and treated them as decent
    human beings, which they are not. The Muslim community only have themselves to blame, in
    not speaking out of the atrocity's carried out by some of there own, as for alienating them they
    do that themselves in not coming out and publicly condoning Fundamentalists.
    They now live in Britain remember tolerance, is not a one way street we give a lot, but I am afraid our tolerance is running out, the death penalty back for members IS's and lets just hang them.

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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    My point always goes back to a) who funded? and b) who armed Isis? c) who trained?

    If we are serious, then Obama and Cameron need to step down first.

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    Default Re: David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    These people are not cowards. You do not go to war voluntarily if you are a coward.

    There is a need to support those fighting IS, also to win over the general population, so the likes of IS are broken up permanently. This is not going to be easy, IS is a cruel but clever opponent, and we sadly are going to see more scenes like this.

    For our part we should not alienate or demonize the whole of the British Muslim community. If we do, guess what? Some will fall under the spell of IS, and go and fight for them. And this will lead to more terrible acts.

    Anti Muslim propaganda just makes IS's task easier and the Allies' harder.
    Being Liberal has done no good what so ever, hard line stance must be taken we have allowed
    Fundamentalist to preach hate, why because we are fucking stupid and treated them as decent
    human beings, which they are not. The Muslim community only have themselves to blame, in
    not speaking out of the atrocity's carried out by some of there own, as for alienating them they
    do that themselves in not coming out and publicly condoning Fundamentalists.
    They now live in Britain remember tolerance, is not a one way street we give a lot, but I am afraid our tolerance is running out, the death penalty back for members IS's and lets just hang them.
    So what you are suggesting is we need a British Caliphate. Our own Caliph can rule over us, ridding us 300+ years of the tolerant and liberal standards of the UK. We can then experience the 'security' of knowing our State can do with us as they wish with no trial or as you suggest tolerance. You go on the wrong website, you lose a hand; you go out with the wrong friend you lose your head...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

    You aren't describing IS as freedom fighters are you?

    The people that the US declare war on 'hit back'?

    Who are you referring to? Not IS surely?

    All they fight and kill for is to implement a warped ideology. They aren't an oppressed people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

    You aren't describing IS as freedom fighters are you?

    The people that the US declare war on 'hit back'?

    Who are you referring to? Not IS surely?

    All they fight and kill for is to implement a warped ideology. They aren't an oppressed people.
    No he is just a dickhead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

    In fact what you are saying is total rubbish.

    We are talking about IS.
    The only grievance IS have stated against them is that they stopped their murderous rampage with air strikes.
    And, haven't we hear time and again that the US armed IS? So at what point did these 'grievances' arise?
    You are mixing up some valid points about US foreign policy and including IS as some form of oppressed people fighting back. When nothing could be further from the truth.
    Do you know what IS stand for?

    You said 'they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances' but what legit grievances have IS got with the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    So the USA trains people like bin Laden because they had to “get the commies,” even if it meant supporting dictators, and murderers.

    Then they support corrupt and brutal regimes that trample the rights of their people.
    Then they fund and support an illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq from bombing and sanctions.

    It’s not right to station USA troops in Saudi Arabia or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to S**T on the Palestinian people.

    It’s not right to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

    It’s not right that the USA uses most of the world’s resources, and maintains military installations and troops in over 700 locations.

    If the USA makes it “Us Against Them” they can hardly act surprised if and when those on whom they’ve declared that war take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of them down as they can.

    And the reason no one is willing to just say “Stop it” is because in the world of power politics to do such a thing is for PUSSIES.

    Real men hit back. Even if terrorists are able to pull off more attacks against the United States or be-head more people from USA.

    The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

    And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

    New freedom fighters replace old ones.

    If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

    If, on the other hand, the USA’s main concern is to show them how BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD they are, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they would set out to show those other kids who was boss.

    That kind of behavior is messed up when kids engage in it. When adults with explosives do it, it becomes deadly.

    Unless the USA begins to fundamentally alter the way they as a nation operate around the world, they are in for years of violence.

    In fact what you are saying is total rubbish.

    We are talking about IS.
    The only grievance IS have stated against them is that they stopped their murderous rampage with air strikes.
    And, haven't we hear time and again that the US armed IS? So at what point did these 'grievances' arise?
    You are mixing up some valid points about US foreign policy and including IS as some form of oppressed people fighting back. When nothing could be further from the truth.
    Do you know what IS stand for?

    You said 'they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances' but what legit grievances have IS got with the US?
    Isis has a problem with the USA and uk etc. because they are not all religious Muslim peasants like Isis.
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