All your last post in nonsense. It was obvious Lennox was not in prime condition and that was clear to see. Being heavier was therefore a disadvantage for him.
All your last post in nonsense. It was obvious Lennox was not in prime condition and that was clear to see. Being heavier was therefore a disadvantage for him.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Oh yeah, how so?
Lennox was leaning all over Vitali, (sapping his strength)
LEnnox was fighting more furiously than he had ever fought whole career.
5lbs.. FIVE above Rahman 2 weight.
43 fights worth of experience (41 at 200+ HW) going in.
Objectively was as quick as he was previous, not noticeably slower at all.
By Lennox's OWN admission, he was well prepared. He had already been in camp training for Johnson. It's just a natural occurrence that boxers gain weight as they age.
But "He was puffing hard doe!"
Vitali was also gassed. That happens when 2 gigantic boxers fight at a pace more befitting a middleweight for several rounds, no matter what kind of condition they are in.
You can claim it was because it was because he was out of shape and I can do no more to prove otherwise, but I can make my claim and you can do no better likewise!
But if an in shape Lennox could have beaten Vitali properly, then why did he retire?
Nothing left to prove? I would say that after that fight, he certainly had one more thing to prove.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
I know this wont be popular but I think Wlad is the best heavyweight of all time. I cant see a fighter I would make favorite to beat him. I dont think Ali is big and strong enough to handle him. I cannot see how a 5'10 Marciano or Tyson could get anywhere near him. The guys Id give the best chance of beating him are Vitali and Lennox.
you need to research better before making posts :S... lewis was 10 pounds heavier than the rahman 2 fight.. Although I do think lewis retired because he didn't want anything to do with vitali in a rematch, which is fair enough he had done it all and was rich he earned the right to retire whenever he felt like it.
Haven't we all already had a go on this roundabout?
Muhammad Ali had fast hands and was the greatest HW of all time, I don't see what more can be said about him.
David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
I see and ready everything you mean. But in the end it comes across as opinion which you seem to think are facts. Hold a poll here on some of your said facts and I will acknowledge it, until then its been cool..overall to debate you & others on which era had the best HW's...BTW I still say 90's
Last edited by SlimTrae; 12-16-2014 at 05:30 AM.
Slim there's a real lot there to digest in 1 post but basically, holding a poll does nothing.
If 99 ppl out of 100 call red blue, even though it's clearly red on a detector, then that means that 99 ppl are colour blind, not that 99 ppl are right! Politics doesn't determine truth, facts determine proof.
Most of my opinions are supported by facts. Where not I state usually it's my opinion.
For instance, I KNOW WK has faced the most quality real HW's of any boxer. Because he has faced the most 200+ opponents for a start.
Of these, he has faced more non-bummy opponents (those that have not lost a significant ratio of their fights, they have BETTER records than the opponents of any other boxer in total.
And these opponents achieved their records by competing with heavier and higher quality boxers in turn. In other words the WORTHINESS of the wins of these opponents (the opponents opponents of Wladimir) was better as well!
Your posts started off strong but got progressively worse as they continued.
One of the last decent laughs was about modern guys fighting for the purse these days and without heart. LEt me tell you that nobody becomes a professional boxer by necessity today, they really WANT to be there! This is a BLOOD SPORT! A pro boxer is an elite fighting machine, nothing less and they are there to WIN!
Past times boxers were expected to be "entertainers" as well, winning was LESS important to them (IN MY OPINION, which makes intuitive sense). Because it was THOSE guys fighting more for the purse than any other because they needed the cash to bloody EAT!
When you mentioned bum Billy Conn vs Joe Louis as some sort of proof, it became unreadable.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
There's no question about it...
Even his daughter claimed so about her own father "He would let his opponents beat on him in order for them to wear themselves out"
And a trainer during sparring "Ali, why you keep getting hit?" Ali.. "I want to get accustomed to the blows".
It was exactly this strategy he employed vs Foreman and others.
I will submit a comprehensive list if you like stretching back throughout career and you can inform me where my analysis has gone haywire.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
The manufactured career of Clay/Ali is such that Deontay Wilder's doesn't look all that bad by comparison, considering how he dealt with such doubtful opposition.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
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