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    Default Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Floyds ranting was soooo laughable. him saying Manny tricked the whole world into believing Floyd is ducking him? omg. Floyd was already a scumbag, but now...he just make himself look even worse. everyone knows floyd has made this megafight all but impossible with his ridiculous/arrogant demands & stipulations, yet he blames Manny? lol. and then making fun of manny's losses and PPV numbers? for all the money mayweather has, the man has absolutely no class whatsoever. Manny may not be the more skilled fighter of the two, there is no doubt who is the true warrior and courageous fighter who likes to please the fans - instead of ducking, running and buying off judges/refs.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    May second eh thats soon though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xwetie View Post
    May second eh thats soon though
    i wish. but we all know floyd will make it impossible for the fight to happen. on camera, he'll fight manny tonight, but off camera, it will be anything he can use to make the fight NOT happen.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    Floyds ranting was soooo laughable. him saying Manny tricked the whole world into believing Floyd is ducking him? omg. Floyd was already a scumbag, but now...he just make himself look even worse. everyone knows floyd has made this megafight all but impossible with his ridiculous/arrogant demands & stipulations, yet he blames Manny? lol. and then making fun of manny's losses and PPV numbers? for all the money mayweather has, the man has absolutely no class whatsoever. Manny may not be the more skilled fighter of the two, there is no doubt who is the true warrior and courageous fighter who likes to please the fans - instead of ducking, running and buying off judges/refs.

    you want to know more about the true DUCKING master of boxing. Mr Mayweather? read this intelligent and thoroughly researched article....

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    Even some of the dumbest posters occasionally get it right...

    Yeah, Floyd seemed to work himself into a logical impasse...

    First "Arum and Pac have been ducking us for years"

    And then "Arum and Pac are desperate to fight! We don't need them, I'm Money."

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't these 2 claims mutually exclusive?

    I mean how can you be desperate to fight him AND ducking him at the same time?

    All that money and he cannot finance his think tank working around the clock trying to figure out credible ways to get out of fighting Pac with even a SINGLE intelligent spinster?

    Unbelievable!
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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    I don't think anyone believes him anymore, but the trouble is people carry on paying to see him fight practically anyone. Commonsense dictates that you should avoid the person most likely to beat you up, but that should be the sense of the ordinary man in the street and not the highest earning prizefighter. You cannot claim to be the greatest anything when you simply will not fight your rival. It's like being a fireman saying 'I'm not going to put out that fire as I don't like that really high building'. You shouldn't have a choice in the issue. Well, you do, but you lose the job. Yet like I say, people keep on rewarding this man. 'Okay, Floyd, just make sure you put out the fires on the low rise buildings. We will go and put out the fire instead and of course you can earn more than the rest of us'. What kind of world allows that? Actually it is sadly far too common and the world is seeing the consequences. Sack that man or have the decency to retire. Fight a speedster or else just go away. I'm telling you Ishe Smith losing today could be his gateway to payday gold.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Enough already...... I don't see this fight happening too many excuses.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    Floyds ranting was soooo laughable. him saying Manny tricked the whole world into believing Floyd is ducking him? omg. Floyd was already a scumbag, but now...he just make himself look even worse. everyone knows floyd has made this megafight all but impossible with his ridiculous/arrogant demands & stipulations, yet he blames Manny? lol. and then making fun of manny's losses and PPV numbers? for all the money mayweather has, the man has absolutely no class whatsoever. Manny may not be the more skilled fighter of the two, there is no doubt who is the true warrior and courageous fighter who likes to please the fans - instead of ducking, running and buying off judges/refs.

    you want to know more about the true DUCKING master of boxing. Mr Mayweather? read this intelligent and thoroughly researched article....

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    #1FightFan your the biggest fucking idiot on this forum soon as you talk about mayweather absolutely no one takes you serious your so against mayweather it's funny.
    If this fight don't happen both sides are to blame I think pretty much everyone who's not a big pacman fan will agree he was probably on steriods you just don't go up in weight like that and destroy people especially at his age it's doesn't happen.
    I do think pacman wants the fight more than floyd but there both top boxers there's not a chance 1 is scared of the other and this fight just might happen if it don't floyd loses his ppv to Canelo vs cotto it's that simple.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    What was the offer? i can't remember but it was around 30-40 million dollar that manny would get from a fight that will generate 250-300 million dollars i've read somewhere, he sure keep his money tight

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    it was always both sides. anybody who only blames one side is an idiot. if either fighter really wanted the fight, they could have pushed a lot harder for it. both just kind of let it go.

    i do agree with floyd though that obviously pac and arum really want this fight now to make mega bucks before pac loses even more popularity.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Pac nut huggers can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

    If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

    Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

    Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

    Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) enquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

    The facts favour Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's stupidity.
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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Last night was pitiful. I have stuck up for Floyd through thick and thin but nothing unless one is a cult member can be more obvious then the fact that Floyd does not want any. @#1FightFan is spot on and calling him an idiot is not evidence to the contrary. Put whatever metaphoric spin you want on it and call it what you will but after all the evidence is in even a remedial objective onlooker has to come to the conclusion that Floyd simply does not want the fight.

    Last nights little tirade was embarrassing. Bringing up the testing like its still an issue and then saying Manny does not deserve 40% cause he lost twice and throwing in a "he's not on my level"

    Sorta like Maidana I guess. The man does not want to fight him. Simple as that. Pretending that the ball is now in Mannys court is hilarious.

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    Default Re: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Pac nut huggers can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

    If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

    Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

    Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

    Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) enquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

    The facts favour Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's stupidity.
    I'm not saying Floyd "ducked" Pac - but just the fact that Floyd required "special stipulations" that he'd never required before could be construed as he didn't want to fight Pac.

    Who were the "credible sources" that claimed Pac's camp asked about the punishment for a positive test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Pac nut huggers can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

    If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

    Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

    Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

    Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) enquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

    The facts favour Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's stupidity.
    The funny thing is it's worse than that. I can't remember what poster it was on another site(I want to say night crawler or something with night) used to put together a series of videos of Freddie Roach saying "Mayweather wanted random testing trying to get out of the fight but we agreed, manny would like a 3 day window because he feels drained after giving blood but we agreed to random testing so the fight is on". Then they balked and asked for 3 days. Then Floyd agreed. Only then did they say they needed 30 days! But they were willing to generously come down to 24 days. It's f'n laughable. Testing was agreed. They backed out changing their demands and Floyd agreed again. I'm sure someone can find that video. Testing was agreed! Pac camp balked, Floyd called their next bluff too. That's why he said he would never offer a cutoff again. Team Pac changed what they wanted from an agreed fight people. And Floyd agreed to their change and they changed it again!!! Floyd is an ass and he has been a dick about this fight ever since. But when the fight should have happened he made it happen with an overly generous offer and team Pac balked, they lied on camera and changed their demands 2 more times. People just speculate he's scared, he don't want because these facts are so f'n clear.

    In no other point in history does the fighter that backed out have the high ground and the guy that stuck to the agreement and then even agreed to further demands get the blame. It's mind numbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Pac nut huggers can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

    If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

    Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

    Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

    Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) enquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

    The facts favour Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    it was always both sides. anybody who only blames one side is an idiot. if either fighter really wanted the fight, they could have pushed a lot harder for it. both just kind of let it go.

    i do agree with floyd though that obviously pac and arum really want this fight now to make mega bucks before pac loses even more popularity.
    I am talking here about the possible (but highly improbable) Mayweather-Pacquiao megafight in the PRESENT, not the PAST negotiation that fell apart. If you stated there that "obviously pac and arum really want this fight now", what is there to blame on their side now? Isn't it now solely on Floyd to accept? If he is indeed serious in that interview, and he does not come up with any outrageous demands then I don't see any reason why the fight should not happen. Floyd has the upper hand in the negotiation and I believe it will be more up to him to be able to make it happen.
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