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    Default Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Perhaps the most decorated HW boxer within the last generation. More decorated in the am's than Wlad, Wilder and Solis combined. But, he was manhandled by Wlad.

    Amazing!

    Wlad may break the record. If Pulev could not even come close, if Thompson lost twice, Povetkin didn't even make a dent.... then who is to stop him?

    Jennings? Wilder? Who!?!? Ortiz? Stiverne? Helenius?? Who?!?!
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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Ask @Max Power he thinks they have been quality opponents and the best fighters we have ever seen in the history of the division because they are so big, heavy and have athletic bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Ask @Max Power he thinks they have been quality opponents and the best fighters we have ever seen in the history of the division because they are so big, heavy and have athletic bodies.
    In the 3 cases mentioned, real skills too lol.
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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    I did not go that far. Povetkin is a shade above Axel Shulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.


    You sir, are a troll.
    I call him a prat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    This logic is retarded. Do you not see it? Fury couldnt stop Mrazek, the same Mrazek who was stopped Viera, Perez ... Fury is shit.

    Povetkin is a very good boxer and his standard of opposition has been pretty decent compared to a lot of other hyped heavies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    Simple...

    Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

    It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    I did not go that far. Povetkin is a shade above Axel Shulz.
    LOL Yeah sure, a shade above Axel Schultz ey. Likely story. I'm sure many will reason that conclusion with you.

    Even if we are to believe this story anyway, this is the same Axel Scultz that rightfully won the lineal HW championship vs George Foreman wasn't it? The same George Foreman which bested Briggs only to be robbed ironically too. See how poorly the logic can be applied?

    All we can say with certain is that Schultz played in the same league as Briggs and Foreman and that Povetkin was better than Schultz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    Simple...

    Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

    It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.
    Povetkin will be considered on his proper merits which is what he achieves in his life time not anyone elses. If he does not achieve much now then you can not say he would have been champion in 1990 unless you have a delorean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    Simple...

    Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

    It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.
    Povetkin will be considered on his proper merits which is what he achieves in his life time not anyone elses. If he does not achieve much now then you can not say he would have been champion in 1990 unless you have a delorean.
    Agreed.

    One of those rare moments that I can in fact agree here.

    I will judge Alexander Povetkin on the merits of what he achieves in his own era period and will not claim that he could have done this and that in the 90's.

    And on the upside here, your friends also cannot make claims that some of those 90's fighters would have trumped Povetkin in this era unless they also have a DeLorean.

    Fair is fair!
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    Alexander Povetkin - the best of the rest says it all mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    Simple...

    Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

    It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.
    What happened to Bob foster when he moved up?

    He didnt nearly stop Ali or Fazier or get a draw on one scorecard. He was wiped out

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