Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20

Thread: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad Ali

Share/Bookmark
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad Ali

    Saturday ~ April 16, 1977

    The Aladdin ~ Las Vegas, Nevada

    This bout was billed as a 'Heavyweight Championship Qualifier'.

    Earnie Shavers {Age; 31 years, 8 months} brought in a record of 53-5-1 {51 KO's}
    and was at the 'peak' of his career.

    Howard Smith {Age; 30 years, 3 months} came in with a record of 24-1-0 {18 KO's}
    and was coming into his own as a Heavyweight Challenger.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 07:43 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,012
    Mentioned
    64 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    570
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Saturday ~ April 16, 1977

    The Aladdin ~ Las Vegas, Nevada

    This bout was billed as a 'Heavyweight Championship Qualifier'.

    Earnie Shavers {Age; 31 years, 8 months} brought in a record of 53-5-1 {51 KO's}
    and was at the 'peak' of his career.

    Howard Smith{Age; 30 years, 3 months} came in with a record of 17-1-1 {11 KO's}
    and was coming into his own as a Heavyweight Challenger.
    I will give you one thing about Earnie Shaver's Bill...

    I think he beat Muhammad Ali in that fight. I think he did more than enough to win throughout the fight and I think only the last 30seconds Ali was really pasting Shaver's.

    But that doesn't make up for what happened the entire fight, particularly since I generally disregard anything that happened in the last 3 rounds of nostalgic fights anyway.

    I don't consider beating Muhammad Ali a big deal AT ALL personally, but you probably would.
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

    Lennox Lewis

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Earnie Shavers

    Earnie's career appeared to be over on September 13, 1975 >

    That is when Earnie got 'shellacked' by Ron Lyle in Denver, Colorado.

    It was a brutal war, that ended with Earnie on the canvas and counted-out in Round 6.

    But Earnie rebounded and won '4' straight, which set him on a new path.

    * November 13, 1975 ...... KO 3 ......... Tommy Howard
    * March 28, 1976 .......... W Dec 10 ... Henry Clark
    * September 28, 1976 .... TKO 2 ....... Henry Clark
    * December 11, 1976 ..... KO 10 ....... Roy 'Tiger' Williams

    Earnie had been 'idle' for 5-Months while waiting for a key bout, but he was
    primed and ready to 'bomb'.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 05:15 PM.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    This bout was broadcast on CBS-TV Sports Spectacular

    Howard 'KO' Smith

    Was a very good boxer, who had excellent hand-speed and nifty footwork.

    Howard stood at {6' 2 1/2"}, and a long reach at {77"}, which complimented
    his accuurate left-jab.

    And he was solidly built at 205 lbs., but with a 'lean' Cheetah-like frame.

    His power-punch was a quick right-cross, that he liked to unload during
    the Middle-Rounds of a bout, as he lured his opponent in close.

    Howard was the California State Heavyweight Champion, which he won on
    June 8, 1973 - but later relinquished the Belt in 1975.

    Howard had some quality wins;

    * June 8, 1973 ......... W Dec 12 ............. Jack O'Halloran
    * November 9, 1973 . W Dec 10 ............. Steve 'Iceman' Carter
    * March 13, 1974 ..... KO 6 ..................... 'Irish' Tony Doyle
    * August 14, 1974 ... KO 6 ...................... Jack O'Halloran
    * May 8, 1975 ......... KO 5 ...................... Larry Middleton
    * June 15, 1976 ...... W Split-Decision ...... Johnny Boudreaux
    * January 15, 1977 .. W Unan. Dec 10 ..... Henry Clark

    But, Howard had 'continous' problems with his right-hand, which he broke
    '8' separate times during his career, which kept him idle for spells of;

    * {6 Months}
    * {8 months}
    * {6 months}
    * {5 months}
    * {5 months}
    * {6 months}
    * {11 months}
    * {7 months}

    The continuing 'problems' with the right-hand, kept Howard Smith out of many
    'decent' money bouts.

    In Howard's 6-Year career {starting on May 8, 1971}, the 'California KO Kid' only
    had '26-Bouts'.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 07:38 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    11,430
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2016
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Fuck off.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    This bout was broadcast on CBS-TV Sports Spectacular

    Howard 'KO' Smith

    Was a very good boxer, who had excellent hand-speed and nifty footwork.

    Howard had height at a 'shade' under {6' 3"}, and a long reach at {77"}
    which complimented his accuurate left-jab.

    And he was solidly built at 203 lbs., but with a 'lean' Cheetah-like frame.

    His power-punch was a quick right-cross, that he liked to unload during
    the Middle-Rounds of a bout, as he lured his opponent in close.

    Howard was the California State Heavyweight Champion, which he won on
    March 13, 1974 - but later relinquished the Belt in 1975.

    Howard had some quality wins;

    * June 8, 1973 ......... W Dec 10 ............. Jack O'Halloran
    * November 9, 1973 . W Dec 10 ............. Steve 'Iceman' Carter
    * March 13, 1974 ..... KO 6 ..................... 'Irish' Tony Doyle
    * August 14, 1974 ... KO 6 ...................... Jack O'Halloran
    * May 8, 1975 ......... KO 5 ...................... Larry Middleton
    * June 15, 1976 ...... W Split-Decision ...... Johnny Boudreaux
    * January 15, 1977 .. W Unan. Dec 10 ..... Henry Clark

    But, Howard had 'continous' problems with his right-hand, which he broke
    '8' separate times during his career, which kept him idle for spells of;

    * {6 Months}
    * {8 months}
    * {6 months}
    * {5 months}
    * {5 months}
    * {6 months}
    * {11 months}
    * {7 months}

    The continuing 'problems' with the right-hand, kept Howard Smith out of many
    'decent' money bouts.

    In Howard's 6-Year career {starting on May 8, 1971}, the 'California KO Kid' only
    had '19-Bouts'.
    __________________________________________________ _______________

    Howard only had 1-Bout in 10-Months, and that was a recent 10-Round Decision
    over Henry Clark on January 15, 1977.

    Before that win, he was 'idle' for 7-Months.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 06:59 PM.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Howard Smith

    'The California KO Kid'

    Was managed by Harry Kabakoff from September 1974 thru 1976.

    But hooked up with Bob Biron 1976, who also managed Ken Norton.

    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 07:20 PM.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ex'way to your Skull
    Posts
    25,024
    Mentioned
    232 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad



    @maxpower @Max Power this is a true ATG, look at his moves, his shoulder movement while throwing combinations. Do yoiu think Wlad could deal with that shoulder movement?

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Excellent Post Triple 'B'

    Earnie was 'primed' and tuned up for this bout at The Aladdin.

    Earnie {Age; 31 years, 8 months} was ranked as the #6 Heavyweight,
    opened up on the board as a 'slight' {7-5} Betting Favorite here.

    Earnie was inked for a $75,000 Fight Purse.

    Howard Smith, who was ranked as the #7 Heavyweight signed for a
    $50,000 Fight Purse.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Earnie Shavers >

    "Howard is a good boxer, no doubt. I boxed him back in May 1974 in San Jose,
    California when I was out there for a bout. He was the only guy who could stand
    up to me at the Gym."

    "My plan is simple, to pressure him with body punches, and to slow him down.
    He's fast in there, and I've got to take away his speed."
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-07-2015 at 08:59 PM.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    64,692
    Mentioned
    1669 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3022
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Why on earth would you not count the last 3 rounds? @Max Power. Those were championship rounds which separated the true greats from the also ran’s.

    Remember this was not the best Ali and he still suckered and out hustled a puncher like Shavers.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    'Shavers and Smith to Trade Bombs at The Aladdin'

    Earnie Shavers, who opened up at a {7-5} Betting Favorite, has now
    been bumped up to a {2-1} Favorite.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Manager - Bob Biron

    This is great opportunity for Howard. He's getting $50,000 for this bout.

    We have big plans for Howard after this. We have a potential $250,000
    pay-day to take on Muhammad Ali after he dispose's of Earnie.

    We're ranked #7, and after Saturday, we will be looking for a Championship
    bout.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,795
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Saturday ~ April 16, 1977

    The Aladdin ~ Las Vegas, Nevada

    Attendance ... { 1530 }
    __________________________________________________ ________________

    "Shavers Unleashes Power, Stops Smith In 2"

    ~ Hard-Hitting Shavers Eyes Big-Name Foe's ~

    For the first-half of Round 1, California's Howard Smith did what he said he would
    do. Jab, and move away from 'bald-headed bomber' Earnie Shavers.

    The 30 year-old West-Coast boxer jabbed, and moved smoothly around the outer
    perimeter of the Ring.

    But, just past the mid-way point in the session, Shavers {209 lbs.} unleashed a
    crisp right-cross to the chin of Smith {202 lbs.}.

    Immediately, Smith looked 'stunned' as he backed up.

    From there, Earnie {Age; 31 1/2} moved quickly, and picked his shots as Smith
    wobbled after each hard-punch.

    Then, Shavers assaulted Smith mercilessly with vicious 'lefts-and-rights' as he battered
    the California boxer into the Ropes.

    With the badly dazed Smith near defenseless, Referee - Richard Green jumped in and
    pushed Earnie away, as he issued Smith a 'standing 8-Count'.

    The action resumed, and Shavers came in with bombs. Smith teetered after absorbing
    the first barrage from Earnie.

    Again, Referee - Richard Green jumped in and issued another 'standing 8-Count'
    as Smith fell down on his 'haunches'.

    After the 'count', the Referee waved Earnie in.

    Shavers continued to dish out punishment as Smith was reeling along the Ropes. Then
    just before the Bell, Smith was toppled to the canvas.

    But, Smith got up, and made it back to his Corner.

    Coming out for Round 2, Smith offered up only weak punches as he did his best to
    avoid getting tagged by the pressing Shavers.

    But Earnie waited, and looked to pick his opening.

    Then at the {2:06 Mark} it came. Earnie slung a 'vicious' right-cross to Smith's face,
    and the California boxer fell back into the Ropes, then fell face first into the canvas.

    Referee - Richard Green counted out Howard Smith @ 2:18 of Round 2.




    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 01-08-2015 at 03:01 AM.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,012
    Mentioned
    64 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    570
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. Howard Smith ~ 'Championship Qualifier' - Winner Gets Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why on earth would you not count the last 3 rounds? @Max Power. Those were championship rounds which separated the true greats from the also ran’s.

    Remember this was not the best Ali and he still suckered and out hustled a puncher like Shavers.
    If a fighter manages to KO an opponent in round 13+ in a nostalgic fight that's fine but when I'm comparing it to a modern boxer, I think it should be dismissed as an "overly-late KO".

    In my opinion if the boxer failed to KO his opponent in 12 rounds, in modern times it would be scored as a decision.

    Not being able to KO the opponent in 12 rounds is a sign of failure of plan and skills and any KO in round 13+ is most likely a stamina gas related KO (as visibly most are), nobody plans to KO an opponent in such a late round. By then energy and skills and power have degraded.

    Also, an overlooked and even more important implication is that for all the talk about modern boxers not being able to fight 15 rounds anymore, fighting only 12 rounds actually PENALISES modern boxers somewhat here because if you made modern boxers fight 15 rounds, the KO ratio's would become even higher for them because there would be 3 extra rounds of opportunity for them to score KO's.
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

    Lennox Lewis

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ex'way to your Skull
    Posts
    25,024
    Mentioned
    232 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Remastered!: Ken Norton vs Earnie Shavers


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Earnie Shavers Tribute
    By brocktonblockbust in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-08-2011, 07:12 PM
  2. EARNIE SHAVERS 62 TODAY
    By SEANIE in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 08-31-2007, 06:31 PM
  3. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 02-17-2007, 05:37 PM
  4. EARNIE SHAVERS VS JOE FRAIZER
    By ICB in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-22-2006, 03:15 AM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-27-2006, 04:58 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2024 Saddo Boxing - Boxing