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    Default Re: #foxnewsfacts

    You are right in your observation that people give propaganda channels like the BBC a free pass. It is more insidious as it operates as a moral voice. Fox is what it is and is of course bad media but so is the BBC. How often do they say that the NHS is being dismantled for instance? What was their attitude to Scottish independance? They are sinister as they veil it all as impartial but it isnt at all. Then there are the low quality British rags with most of the audience. Really fucked up and they say Im mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

    Between October 2012 and October 2014, the Ferguson, Mo., police department reported making 11, 610 vehicle stops, according to a U.S. Justice Department report released Wednesday.

    Of those traffic stops, African Americans accounted for 85 %, or 9,875 , of those stops despite making up only 67% of Ferguson’s population. On the other hand, white individuals made up 15 %, or 1,735, of the stops during the same one-year period despite representing 29% of the population, according to the DOJ’s report titled “Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department.”

    The 102-page report noted that when a Ferguson cop stop African-American drivers, they are more likely to receive citations and to be subjected to searches of their vehicles.
    “Black people are significantly more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than whites people. From October 2012 to October 2014, 11% of stopped black drivers are searched, whereas only 5% of stopped white driver were searched,” DOJ reported.
    Although African Americans were searched at higher rates, they are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them than whites: 24 % of searches of African Americans resulted in contraband finding, whereas 30 % of searches of whites resulted in contraband findings.
    The DOJ reported that 91 %, or 8,987, of stopped black drivers received traffic citations compared to 87 % , or 1,501, of all stopped white drivers.
    The study noted that 891 of stopped black drivers—10% of all African-American drivers—were arrested as a result of the stop, whereas only 63 stopped white drivers—4% of all white drivers—were arrested.


    In Ferguson, Black Drivers Account for 85% of Traffic Stops

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    Thanks for repeating the numbers I already posted.


    I do have a few honest questions

    How did they figure up 26% I see 24% African-Americans caught with contraband and 30% Whites caught with contraband....I'm not the best at math so I would like some clarity there if you don't mind of course.

    When, where, how, and why were these stops made? I ask because it makes a difference in how we need to go about correcting the system. I'm not a real fan of road blocks as SOME officers certainly attempt to sidestep the God given rights of American citizens. Pullovers also can lead down that path depending on the officer. Some stops can be legit obviously, there are people who break the law and again Ferguson compared to the national average ain't far off (not saying the national average doesn't need changing because of course it does).


    I see a community looking to try and fund itself via citations and tickets as well as the long arm of the law overreaching with this dumb War on Drugs which has taken the average Sheriff/Police Captain and turned them from Andy Taylor Andy Taylor (The Andy Griffith Show) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to Gerald Hege Gerald Hege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ....the militarization of the everyday police force has had sickening results PLUS it hasn't stopped anyone from using whatever they like. Bust somebody with 300 pounds of pot, big whoopty shit go to a high school, go to a college, go to a concert, you could find 300 more pounds of it....the work they do halting the drug trade does nothing to stop supply or demand, it's wasted money AND if you legalize marijuana for example boom, tax revenue, no need for those traffic stops, no need for massive amounts of citations and tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Department of Justice report on the Ferguson, Mo. Police Department - The Washington Post

    III. Ferguson law enforcement efforts are based on generating revenue.....well here's sign #1 that the DOJ is completely and shamelessly unaware of what "law enforcement" actually does. Damn near ALL laws are enforced to generate revenue. The government can repo and auction off your shit so fast it'll make your head spin! And the best part?!?! the burden of proof is on YOU to justify why you should keep YOUR property!!!!

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average....that said: War on Drugs + War on Poverty = exactly this and it'll only get worse if we allow the politicians, special interest groups, et al to keep things status quo.

    As for President Obama and more importantly "Reverend" Al Sharpton. #1 President Obama has in the past spoken before he knew the full details on a few race related incidents and AS PRESIDENT that's kind of a difficult thing to look past, I understand he's the first black President people are looking for him to get shit done about these kind of issues but wouldn't it be more prudent to relay calmness and look over the facts before commenting? #2 Al Sharpton loves this shit and any time he can stir the pot he'll do it right, wrong, indifferent, give him a little time in the spotlight and he'll do his act regardless of if there is an actual case for it or not because in his mind 100% of the punishment is justified because of past happenings so those officers accused of assaulting Tawana Brawley, they were collateral damage as were the Duke lacrosse players, collateral damage for the sins of their ancestors...there's no "I'm sorry I dragged your name through the mud", there's no remorse there. Maybe some people feel a sense of comfort with that eye for an eye mentality in regards to this, but in order to actually move forward from the past people are going to have to bury the axes they have to grind with people of other races and those in positions of authority need to be fair and even handed in their distribution of justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

    Between October 2012 and October 2014, the Ferguson, Mo., police department reported making 11, 610 vehicle stops, according to a U.S. Justice Department report released Wednesday.

    Of those traffic stops, African Americans accounted for 85 %, or 9,875 , of those stops despite making up only 67% of Ferguson’s population. On the other hand, white individuals made up 15 %, or 1,735, of the stops during the same one-year period despite representing 29% of the population, according to the DOJ’s report titled “Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department.”

    The 102-page report noted that when a Ferguson cop stop African-American drivers, they are more likely to receive citations and to be subjected to searches of their vehicles.
    “Black people are significantly more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than whites people. From October 2012 to October 2014, 11% of stopped black drivers are searched, whereas only 5% of stopped white driver were searched,” DOJ reported.
    Although African Americans were searched at higher rates, they are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them than whites: 24 % of searches of African Americans resulted in contraband finding, whereas 30 % of searches of whites resulted in contraband findings.
    The DOJ reported that 91 %, or 8,987, of stopped black drivers received traffic citations compared to 87 % , or 1,501, of all stopped white drivers.
    The study noted that 891 of stopped black drivers—10% of all African-American drivers—were arrested as a result of the stop, whereas only 63 stopped white drivers—4% of all white drivers—were arrested.


    In Ferguson, Black Drivers Account for 85% of Traffic Stops
    Very Objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Thanks for the link to absolutely nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Thanks for the link to absolutely nothing
    All I saw was : Jon Stewart beautifully takes down Fox News over latest 'mainstream media conspiracy'



    With that kind of statement: I was expecting to see a video where they were in a MMA cage and he executed a move, avoiding the guard and causing a tapout. Instead all I got was

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    It's hard to take Jon Stewart's attacks on Fox News seriously when you take into consideration his political views and the political skew of The Daily Show which is no doubt to the left....unapologetically to the left. Stewart defines himself as "Socialist, or Independent", but oh well. His book is wrong as well, making several references to the "Democracy" .....we're not a Democracy, we're a Republic.

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    Democracy = Republic. Same thing.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Democracy = Republic. Same thing.
    Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

    Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

    Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

    ...but you were saying?

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