Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
Originally Posted by
Max Power
Slim one of your comments sticks out to me here..
The one about Robinson and Moore etc with 100+ KO's on their record, flat strap from bell to bell and dynamite in their fists...
Tell THAT to Manny Pacquiao (regarding workrate)
U -R right. Pac has shown a gr8 workrate, but different from whom? Paul Williams and Margarito's workrate at one point was about 100 thrown per round. Then watch Norman Hayes vs Jake Lamotta, there were no punchstats then, but if I could estimate maybe 110 per round. Mickey Ward vs Drunken warrior averaged 100 plus per round. HW's Ike vs Tua averaged 80 per round. Pac is an example of what has already been happening. Era dont dictate workrate. Individuality does.
Tell THAT to Gennady Golovkin (regarding dynamite)
Why? he is a great prospect looking to do what others b4 him has done: KTFO's have long been a staple of the MW division. See Gerald McCellan 85% KO ratio. see Jr. Middleweight KO artist Julian Jackson- he is THE HUMAN ONE PUNCH HIGHLIGHT REEL 49 KOS out of 55 wins.
And as for the 100 KO's, the reason is the same as for WHY they could perform as they did perform...
They fought opposition so abysmally poor, hardly any if any of them would ever step foot in a boxing ring with a top rated professional, let alone not get knocked out well within 12, let alone 15!
Obviously nobody could have so many fights against good opposition.
I remember on a few occasions you responded to others that if they havent watched/viewed ALL the fighters opponents over thousands of them, then they shouldnt claim to know. Psst; practice what U preach.
Well Slim...
That WAS actually what I considered one of my "smoking gun" arguments..
And I suppose you're right.. I also am not immune to that philosophy.
I'll shut up for now. Because from there on as you will tell me if I continue, it's only my opinion (with regards to modern training methods, skills, athleticism etc), I stand by it, I can see it! We KNOW of some methods now which have replaced old.
But statistically there's only really the weight argument, and if we adjust for real weight in lower divisions, then we're only really talking about HW.
Well done.
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