I was at this tournament the other day and I was watching guys who usually have really nice technique look like complete crap, because the way they score in amateur you have to throw so many punches to win and there really wasn't much art to it. I would really rather have a few amateur fights and then go pro. But I was curious, are there, or have there been any really big names in pro boxing that didn't have a well known amateur career. almost everybig name I know has been to the Olympics or almost made it to the Olympics.