Larry Holmes- Championship run needs revisiting?

[ykdadamaja]

Now, I don't wanna shit on Holmes. But he talks too much shit, and his record as a Champion needs a little revisiting. He always talks about not having his "just due", but just take a look at his record post winning the title against Ken Norton- a fight that could have gone either way and a fight where he never gave Norton a rematch:

Evangilista, Occasio, Weaver, a young and inexperienced Bonecrusher, Zanon, Ledoux, Ali when Ali was near brain dead, Spinks (when Spinks couldn't beat a brain dead Ali the second time around), Berbick before time, couldn't stop Tex Cobb, Scott Frank, David Bey, and a host of other spotty shit fights.

He nearly got knocked the fuck out vs Witherspoon, the best out of the lot before he got to Mike Spinks, and should have lost that one.

Holmes talks a lot of shit, but the guys he is bragging about on his record can't get in the ring with Ali in his prime, let alone get past the first 5 rounds.

[Beanflicker]

Larry is one of the best ever.

[TitoFan]

Now, I don't wanna shit on Holmes. But he talks too much shit, and his record as a Champion needs a little revisiting. He always talks about not having his "just due", but just take a look at his record post winning the title against Ken Norton- a fight that could have gone either way and a fight where he never gave Norton a rematch:

Evangilista, Occasio, Weaver, a young and inexperienced Bonecrusher, Zanon, Ledoux, Ali when Ali was near brain dead, Spinks (when Spinks couldn't beat a brain dead Ali the second time around), Berbick before time, couldn't stop Tex Cobb, Scott Frank, David Bey, and a host of other spotty shit fights.

He nearly got knocked the fuck out vs Witherspoon, the best out of the lot before he got to Mike Spinks, and should have lost that one.

Holmes talks a lot of shit, but the guys he is bragging about on his record can't get in the ring with Ali in his prime, let alone get past the first 5 rounds.

Hey I shit on Holmes all the time. He's nothing but a bitter, whiny, racist, "nobody loves me" jerk, who gets too much credit for what he did during his career. His shining moment came against Great White Hope Gerry Cooney... and he's never let anyone forget that. He as much as anyone made everything about race. F*ck Holmes.

Oh.... and he didn't have lethal power in both hands. (Private joke between Bean and me).

[SlimTrae]

Go Larry- Edit

[El Kabong]

Point of clarification gents.....who was Larry Holmes' rival? People go on and on about how a great fighter needs a rival, well who was Larry's biggest rival? Same question for Mike Tyson while we are at it.

[Beanflicker]

People go on and on about how a great fighter needs a rival

Anyone who says a great fighter NEEDS a rival is a dipshit cunt tit.

[beenKOed]

People go on and on about how a great fighter needs a rival

Anyone who says a great fighter NEEDS a rival is a dipshit cunt tit.

"dipshit cunt tit" That's one I haven't heard before! It works, it works!
I find it hard to criticize a heavyweight champion who defended the title as many times as Holmes.

[Master]

Point of clarification gents.....who was Larry Holmes' rival? People go on and on about how a great fighter needs a rival, well who was Larry's biggest rival? Same question for Mike Tyson while we are at it.

Spinks

[Beanflicker]

Eddie Murphy




MAH NAME AH LARRY HOLME. MY FAVORITE SOUP.... AM THE CAMPBELL SOUP.

[El Kabong]

Spinks

So Larry Holmes, the legend that he is has a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT as his biggest rival? And he had what to say about the champions that followed him again

[ykdadamaja]

Point of clarification gents.....who was Larry Holmes' rival? People go on and on about how a great fighter needs a rival, well who was Larry's biggest rival? Same question for Mike Tyson while we are at it.

Holmes had two: Spinks and Weaver. He beat Weaver twice and lost to Spinks twice.

[SlimTrae]

Holmes is a great boxer and proved it more so by beating young guys in the generation after him.

But Eddie Murphy does have a point. I got to hear that skit again!

[Bill Paxtom]

Larry Holmes

"I didn't want to do it. But, I had to put an end to Muhammad Ali. Yes, I'm the man
that closed the book."

"Now, you will find Muhammad on the discount shelf in the Book Store, along the back wall."

[oakleyno1]

One thing about Holmes is that until the end unlike lewis, wlad etc he never got taken out by one of his average-good opponents - cut it close but never lost until the very end of his reign

[p4pking]

One thing about Holmes is that until the end unlike lewis, wlad etc he never got taken out by one of his average-good opponents - cut it close but never lost until the very end of his reign

Good point. Say what you want about Holmes or his record(although he fought everyone he could have), but he was an extremely hard man with incredible will to win, and a clean fighter to boot. He fought his way through every instance he was in big trouble, what more can you really ask for in the ring. The only other HW I can think of who has come back to win in similar fashion, after being so badly hurt in a fight, is Evander Holyfield. Speaking of him, Holmes did damn well in their fight when he was ancient, that could have even gone the other way.